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Please, someone, explain this to me.

In 2014 General Motors produced cars that had a defective ignition switch. That resulted in 124 deaths. It also resulted in the recall of 30 million cars worldwide, $900 million in fines plus civil settlements to those harmed by death or injury.

Every year about 150 people are killed or injured by negligent or accidental discharges of firearms*. That's when a gun 'goes off' without intent by the person holding that gun. Every year. As a result there have been no recalls of firearms, no fines and no settlements due to legal actions against firearms companies.

Every time some definable issue with an automobile, or any other consumer product, is discovered be it a defect or just current manufacturing practices immediate governmental recalls are made and the problem corrected. Not with guns. Guns are still manufactured to the same standards they were in the mid 1800s. Only a gun manufacturer can voluntarily initiate a recall of it's product. In addition, gun manufacturers, distributors, importers and sellers are protected by the Protection of Legal Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) that restricts civil recourse against any of these entities to very narrow and specific conditions.

Just about every one of these 150 deaths or injuries could be prevented with current proven technology. Referred to as Smart Gun technology it can prevent a firearm from being operated by any other than the one authorized to use it. It isn't expensive, adding perhaps $25 to the cost of the firearm and it is absolutely reliable in every conceivable situation. Yet the gun industry vehemently resists adoption and marketing of such technology to the point of death threats to any dealer who offers it to customers. In fact there is not even a requirement for a mechanical safety device on guns**.

What is wrong with us?

*I say 'about' because there aren't any compiled statistics by any agency, governmental or NGO. It's a secret because, well, guns. The numbers I postulate are gleaned from a pro-gun online magazine article based on two years of online searching news paper articles.

**Except for guns designed for a Military Request for Quote. The military, whose most basic job description is to 'tear things up and kill people' has more stringent safety requirements than the civilian market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_ignition_switch_recalls#Aftermath

https://www.concealedcarry.com/safety/300-negligent-discharges-comprehensive-data-science-reveals-gun-grabbers-and-gun-owners-are-both-wrong/

It's not over after that trigger is pulled . . .

“It's not over after that trigger is pulled and it hits someone. It's the beginning of a new life, and some people just don't know how to live.”

—Charles Horton, 50, who's been a wheelchair user since sustaining a spinal cord injury in a 1988 shooting.


There are more than 100,000 people affected by gunshot wounds every year.

What is wrong with us?

Child shootings are on course to break records, worrying doctors at Cook Children's

The number of local children injured in shootings in 2021 is on track to break records, and it’s causing fears among medical professionals at Cook Children’s Medical Center in Fort Worth.

Through May of this year, the hospital has treated 35 children for gunshot wounds, in many cases accidental, according to a news release. Accidental or not, gunshot wounds are among the most likely injuries from which children can die.

Two of the 35 children admitted to Cook Children’s died from their wounds, according to the release. In the entirety of 2019, 41 children were admitted for gunshot wounds and five died. In 2020, that number rose to 47 shot and four who died.

Dr. Dan Guzman, an emergency room doctor at Cook Children’s, said in the release he fears that number will continue to rise sharply throughout the summer months. With children out of school and oftentimes at home alone while their parents work, an improperly secured gun can cost a life.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/article252470463.html? (sorry, paywall)

Guns make everything better.

After string of road rage shootings in Dallas-Fort Worth, police talk prevention

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article252454238.html?

Dallas has seen a string of road rage assaults. From Friday night to Monday morning, police responded to three shootings related to road rage. On Friday, a driver shot a pregnant woman in the head, Fox 4 News reported, after the driver cut her and her boyfriend off in southeast Dallas. The woman’s baby was delivered safely, but she remained in critical condition. On Sunday, police say a driver opened fire along a road in Dallas and hit two cars. One person was shot in the hand.

An armed society is a polite society. At least that's what I've been told by the gun industry. Guns make everything better.

14 -- the number of school shootings since March


14 — the number of school shootings since March, when many districts returned to in-person classes. That’s the most in that period since at least 1999, though the three killed and eight injured was fewer than the 33 people who died in the same timeframe in 2018. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/06/24/school-shootings-2021-increase/


More escalation. Kids going back to school . . . with guns.

Guns make everything better! Domestic violence, road rage, job disputes and schools.

An NRA past president gives a commencement speech

It's only 2 minutes, watch the whole thing . . .

Is there a link between the sheer number of guns available and gun violence.

This is a chart of gun deaths from 1968 to 2017:


Note the sharp spike in murders that begins in 2014. That trend continues today with the CDC reporting a murder rate of 5.8/100k in 2019 and increases over that in 2020* and 2021* (numbers not finalized as of this post).

What happened in 2014? No pandemic, no major influx of drugs or gangs, economy booming and inflation down while employment up. What changed?

Below is a graph of guns manufactured from 1986 through 2018:


Here is a chart of imports of guns from 1986 to 2018:


Notice the spike in manufacturing and imports that began after 2010 and spiked in 2014? The supply of guns is directly correlated to the increase in gun violence. There is no way to ignore this.

Shootings in U.S. are up -- and experts fear it will get worse

By almost every measure, 2021 has already been a terrible year for gun violence. And many fear it will get worse. Last weekend alone, more than 120 people died in shootings, according to the Gun Violence Archive, with three especially dangerous incidents in Austin; Chicago; and Savannah, Ga., killing two and injuring at least 30.

Through the first five months of 2021, gunfire killed more than 8,100 people in the United States, about 54 lives lost per day, according to a Washington Post analysis of data from the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit research organization. That’s 14 more deaths per day than the average toll during the same period of the previous six years.


Researchers note a number of factors they say are driving the upswing, including the unprecedented surge in gun sales. In 2020, a year of pandemic, protests and elections, people purchased more than 23 million guns, a 66 percent increase over 2019 sales, according to a Post analysis of federal data on gun background checks.


Controlling for population, the analysis found that the higher the jump in gun sales between 2019 and 2020, the higher the jump in gun violence that resulted in at least one death.

https://digital.olivesoftware.com/olive/ODN/HoustonChronicle/Default.aspx (pay wall)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/14/2021-gun-violence/ (no pay wall)

There is much more worth reading in the article but the bottom line is that IT REALLY IS THE GUNS.

MORE GUNS = MORE SHOOTINGS. There's no way to deny it.

At the same time other crimes, violent and non violent, are down and remain at near all time lows. It's only gun violence that is up.



The NRA was once the good guy.

In the 1920s
The National Revolver Association, which was part of the NRA, proposed requiring a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Other aspects of the NRA’s legislation: adding five years prison time if a gun was used in a crime, prohibiting the sale of a gun to a non-citizen, imposing a one-day waiting period before a purchaser could take possession of a gun, and opening records of gun sales to police. Nine states adopted the legislation.


I have told gunners for years that they are the ones best suited to write gun laws. Of course it fell on hostile ears. We will have sensible gun laws, laws the will reduce the number and kind of guns in circulation to a small fraction of what we have today. Perhaps not in my lifetime, but it will come and the gunners aren't going to be happy.

That's what happens when those who love a thing let others regulate it for them.

A History of the NRA
https://hickoryrecord.com/news/history-of-the-nra/collection_772d86f7-a01a-586a-abc8-930bcaa6d4f3.html#1

A short easy read and well worth the few minutes to better know who we are dealing with.

13 injured in mass shooting on Austin's Sixth Street

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/13-injured-in-mass-shooting-on-Austin-s-Sixth-16243242.php

My fingers are numb from typing details and excerpts on these things.
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