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Did Trump get the information from Putin? If so are we supposed

to be grateful? ISIS used to take over the social services in towns and cities they took over and immediately start doing favours and social services along with murder and mayhem. Does Trump not know that a favor for a favor society is what the middle East was based on before the 20th century?That if Putin is doing Trump favours, it is going back in time. Why has he skirted normal intelligence channels with this story on potential genocide? Where is he getting information from and how? What strategic ally, with assets on the ground in Syria, would contact Trump's WH before intelligence professionals in the US government?

http://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-white-house-warns-syria-bashar-assad-chemical-attacks-2017-6

"SNIP.......


Specifics about the alleged preparations were not immediately clear, and Spicer did not elaborate beyond the statement. Some US intelligence agencies were reportedly caught off guard by the White House statement Monday night, according to The New York Times. The newspaper noted that it was not clear how closely held the intelligence about a possible attack might have been.

........SNIP"

(Later: only some in us intelligence and the pentagon knew about this possible atrack).

Are Republicans this cynical? I'm sure some of them are earnest in their call

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/robert-jeffress-demonization-pollticians_us_59419625e4b003d5948cf12e

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/06/17/ted-nugent-once-said-obama-should-suck-on-my-machine-gun-now-he-wants-to-tone-down-the-hateful-rhetoric/?utm_term=.d7006fc64c29

for lowering the political temperature. Some of them are exploiting the situation. Reminds me of how Ken Starr came out and apologized for the Clinton special counsel White Water investigation just as Americans were trying to figure out how 9/11 happened. Convenient. And then when not in power they republicans went crazy with investigations on Benghazi which found Hillary's personal server. Or are Republicans so tribal that they know not what they do?

I remember Jon Stewart making a joke about 'a country that recently had

a civil war's and of course that is so true (he meant the US). We had unity issues in Canada in the early 1970s. And we did what we had to do to understand each other. And though there is talk of independence in Quebec every few decades, the world has changed to such an extent that we would still be economically interconnected if it happened. But we understand each other. We get it. And hundreds of thousands of English speaking kids go to French immersion school in grade school and guess what the cherry is on top: learning a second language as a kid helps you think as an adult. Why the rich always make sure their kids learn another language in the US. Point is that powers that be in the USA have not wanted a reckoning in the last 50 years, as the world became less racist, as race is such an efficient tool of politicians on the right. The most horrid and blatant racism was stopped, but without a unifying process. The sad thing is that black culture has made americans on the whole more extroverted through rock and roll, emotions and other such ways over 400 years. And that different culture, as compared to England or Canada, gave the US a leg up the 20th century when the middle class exploded. US has been the best at so much. But especially at extroversion (and financial wealth because of slavery) . Other non wasp cultures helped too. (Canada and Briain are losening up as we speak due the variety of immigrants we have these days - and Canada is opening up to indigenous culture because of all Trudeau has done). But the US will not talk about both sides of the street and who gets to take blame and credit for all of the bad and great things in America. Because the GOP has an agenda to win elections using the southern strategy wedge of all wedges - so that rich people don't have to pay taxes.

At what point do they hope for terror and start doing things to encourage

a terrifying situation to happen to give themselves the excuse to make their base afraid? And are they already doing that with the NRA and gun culture?

TERROR TERROR TERROR all over GOP frequented discussion forums.

Your chances of dying in a car accident are much greater. I guess they want to scare people back to being afraid of terror rather than being afraid of being one of the 23 million who will lose health care coverage because of Trump's AHCA. What do you call people who use terrorist events they did not physically cause, to spread the threat of terror, or enlarge it, to get a political outcome? Are they not terrorists too?
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