MellowDem
MellowDem's JournalDepends on what one considers "thoughtful" and "compelling"...
Anyone that chooses to voluntarily join a bigoted organization and belief system that actively discriminates and hurts others won't have any thoughtful or compelling reasons in my book. The reasoning I find is almost always very bad. Actually, most don't care to think too much about it I'd imagine, or they might end up losing their livelihood.
Another good example of how faith is a dangerous way to think...
and can harm other innocent third parties, like your children.
Not for any good (IMHO) logical reason...
Might as well ask why someone would want to be a member of the KKK, a uniquely bigoted organization itself, except, at least there you still get to have sex, and their philosophy isn't entirely supernatural, you do have some psuedoscience, though a lot of apologetics seems like psuedoscience to me.
Seriously, why would someone young want to throw away their sexuality and young years for an institution based on lies, fear, hate and bigotry, with clear beliefs on women being inferior and homosexuals being "disordered", and with a vengeful god that killed millions in their own holy book, and of which there is zero proof or evidence? It's a good question. What would drive someone to do that?
My guess? For most, childhood indoctrination first and foremost (which is very sad really), tradition, comforting beliefs, and community, all mixed with a big dose of intellectual dishonesty and cognitive dissonance, and a splash of ingnorance (add more if need be). What else? Well, maybe the fear of hell and the opportunity to help others. What's depressing is that religion is not needed for tradition, community, comforting philosophies, etc., and religion can twist even good intentions because it is based on such an illogical premise. Hence, Pope Francis wanting to help the poor, but homosexuals organizing for rights? The devil.
While I can respect the good intentions of some of those who become nuns and priests, I can never respect their decision to carry out those intentions through such a terrible, horrible, hateful belief system that continues to cause so much pain and suffering and recruits almost entirely through indoctrinating the gullible, mainly young children. Indeed, for pushing gullibility as a virture in "faith". Not to mention, the sheer lunacy of celibacy and the totally disgusting, guilt-ridden idea of "original sin". At the same time, I feel for them, because for many, if they hadn't been indoctrinated in the faith, they would have never chosen such a twisted role in service to such a terrible belief system, regressive in so many ways.
I didn't...
The point is that something is not right just because it has been going on a long time.
Whether your an atheist or not has nothing to do with such terrible logic.
Slavery goes back farther than that... Your point?
Is it Obama's fault for actively defending violations of religious freedom, no matter how far back they go, with theocratic-minded Repubs as his allies? Yup.
Obama administration sides with Republicans in defending legislative prayers
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/16/everything-you-need-to-know-about-town-of-greece-v-galloway-the-supreme-court-case-about-government-prayer/Summary: Town has only Christian prayers for years, gets called out on it, court of appeals rules it's not constitutional. Conservative Supreme Court decides to take case, 32 Republican Senators and 84 Republican House members file briefs defending the practice. Only 2 Democrats, one senator and one house member, join them, and, oh yeah, the Obama administration.
WTF? ANY prayer is unconstitutional and harmful, much less sectarian prayer, carried out by government bodies, what the hell is the Obama administration thinking?
Here is the Obama defense, joining all those fun conservatives. Disgusting:
http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publications/supreme_court_preview/briefs-v2/12-696_pet_amcu_usa.authcheckdam.pdf
With friends like these....
I never said you were
Which god?
The one from the Bible? Let us hope so, that guy is a tyrannical genocidal maniac.
Most believers were indoctrinated as children...
And it takes a lot more than simple logic or rational arguments to make them question beliefs, which is the point of successful belief systems. I know I balked at stuff like this as a believer for a long time, and it was easy to do.
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