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VIDEO: Into The Lost Crystal Caves (Full)

This is the full video that the OP clip mentions. IDK how long it will stay up on youtube, but it's been there over a year now, so settle back with some popcorn and enjoy the movie.

Says in this the caves are connected, mentions one in Iran and Israel. That's on the other side of the Earth. I'm sure if they meant that literally, it would mean the Earth underground isn't what we've been taught.

Wonder if there are connections beneath many important places. And also if these had anything to do with sounds recorded by NASA of Earth from space. No doubt, they inspired the Hollow Earth stories.

I've worked in executive suites of oil companies. In one company, they occupied the top floor of a modern high rise office building. There were a number of huge crystals, stunning in size and color. It was something I'll never forget seeing. Most of my specimens from picking out of crystal formations down the side of cliffs, rappeling, or visting caves with my geology field trips weren't large.

Later I spoke with a former miner about the crystals I'd seen at this energy CEO's offices. He spoke with awe in his voice, saying he'd had the 'privilege' of working in such mines and there were many things beyond the minerals and ores they were sent to take to the surface for commerce.

I'd love to get a DVD of this, but I've found some from the UK won't play on American players. Maybe they will on the computer, IDK.

Thanks for the thread leading me to this video.

IDK... I've tried to ignore 'em until it became impossible. Like Stephon King's Langoliers...

On a red eye flight to Boston from LA 10 people wake up to a shock. All the passengers and crew have vanished. When they try to contact the ground they make no connections. They land the plane only to discover that things haven't changed. But its like the world is dead. No one is there, the air is still, sound doesn't echo, the food is tasteless.

And a distant sound is heard coming closer. A race of monstrous beings bent on their destruction is heading for them, eating everything in sight.


And we are confronted with holding them back, or creating a new world that allows us to live, and the planet to survive, but they don't care. When Romney was running Bain and destroying communities, he was praised by his ilk for cutting out all the deadwood and debris, even from companies that weren't in trouble.

So the deadwood was really the working people, that they want to eliminate from life. I have considered if they are right. H.G. Wells said that new world order would come, no matter what, and that many people full of beauty and grace would die resisting it, but it would come, all the same. I've decided after arguing with libertarians and teabaggers for a long time elsewhere, that they believe they are carrying out a mission.

To rid the Earth of the people whom they consider unworthy to live. They have a long list, longer than the 47%. They tell us to our face, more and more every day. A Bill Maher quote sums up our goal, and it's an hard and unpleasant one:

In The Great Divide Between Democrats and Republicans, Some Words From Bill Maher To Remember...

"Democrats in America were put on Earth to do one thing... drag the ignorant, hillbilly half of this country into the next century, which in their case, is the 19th."

So we see their winner take all, rip the Earth to pieces as antique and unsustainable, and they see us a fossils of a softer sensibility holding back their view of utopia. I've read libertarian screeds about how the billionaires have a great model for us all to follow, so let's dissolve all the government, and let them create it.

So there is always more than one side. Theirs believes the world should be just the way they want it to be never 'taking prisoners.'

We're like Rodney King pleading:

'Can't we all just get along?'

Correcting the LeVey quote:

to alterfurz

Agreed, and those of other parties that chant their mantras are too. A view that leads to death:

From my thread here:


Thanks for posting that article and the link, I'm busy but going to go through the entire site.

Read it all, and am going to read the other articles there. Interesting perspectives. Re: the GOP:

Thom Hartmann performs an Exorcism on the GOP - Really!

Uploaded on Jun 29, 2011

Proof that Bush & Republicans have gone to the Dark Side with the Devil stars.

to DUer Thom Hartmann.

I've usually posted that video as a parody. The best of that genre often speaks of things that others refuse to discuss. When speaking to people in that part of their mind where religion or the concepts of good and evil is engrained in them, at times that is the only way. I push more toward cause and effect, and the benefits from negative actions.

As your linked article states, there are reasons. I've been told before that in that mindset, when planning to do something harmful to another is required. That agreement with lack of discernment or awareness, not looking deeper into things, means you are considered lawful prey.

And that one only has to telegraph, by saying things that are the exact opposite of one's actions, to get the universe's approval for wrongdoing. Think of terms in the way the GOP uses them, calling taking food and money from the poor, disabled and elderly, a 'reform.'

The word 'reform' to most people means something will be better for all and innovation, not starving and killing people. Their plans to privatize social security and other programs because they say that 'government is evil and ungodly', is outright theft for the greedy. it is not an improvement. This was refuted very well in the OP's linked article.

A discerning person looks to the effect of the proposed action or searches their own heart, using the Golden Rule, or feeling love and empathy for others generally. But if a distracted, brainwashed or uncaring person mindlessly chants what they hear with only their own selfish or low level feelings engaged and fails to think or feel compassion, that is construed as agreement.

Thus the use of dramatic words and music, slogans, and repetition in media is used to sway them from the inclusive views liberals believe in, and the long term good of all, not short term gain or more honestly called, theft, and maintaing a living environment. Then any sort of evil action can be done, robbery, torture, mayhem, bigotry, war and murder -- without blame. After all, no one thought ahead and objected. That's what we face in this electorate.

Biblically, Satan plays the role of the hater and destroyer of ALL life. We see the GOP's parody of loving life with the unborn, but not the mother or the child when it is born. At that point, it is deemed worthless by their social policy. They call Democrats godless baby killers, yet the long term policy of Democrats following the social democratic route, leads to less death and less abortion.

But this method works for the selfish, the hateful, the spiritually shallow or those in love with their own comfort. Does this not fit the GOP voter?

Here are Thom Hartmann's political views from the Wikipedia page:

Political views[edit]

Hartmann is considered to have progressive/liberal politics (although he describes himself as part of the radical middle).[33] He is the author of numerous books including Unequal Protection: The Rise of Corporate Dominance and the Theft of Human Rights, in which he argues that the 1886 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company (118 U.S. 394) did not actually grant corporate personhood, and that this doctrine derives from a mistaken interpretation of a Supreme Court clerk's notes. Hartmann considers this a clear contradiction of the intent of the Founding Fathers of the United States.[34] He has also written on the separation of church and state, drawing upon the Federalist Papers to argue that the Founding Fathers warned against the notion of the United States being a Christian nation. He contends that the 2000 American election and 2004 American election were stolen through electronic tampering, denial of the voting franchise by rigged voting lists, and limiting availability of voting machines in selected precincts. He also accuses the Bush administration of eroding democracy and individual freedoms.

Hartmann is also a vocal critic of the effects of neoliberal globalization on the U.S. economy, claiming that economic policies enacted during and since the presidency of Ronald Reagan have led, in large part, to many American industrial enterprises' being acquired by multinational firms based in overseas countries, leading in many cases to manufacturing jobs' – once considered a major foundation of the U.S. economy – being relocated to countries in Asia and other areas where the costs of labor are lower than in the U.S.; and the concurrent reversal of the United States' traditional role of a leading exporter of finished manufactured goods to that of a primary importer of finished manufactured goods (exemplified by massive trade deficits with countries such as China). Hartmann argues that this phenomenon is leading to the erosion of the American middle class, whose survival Hartmann deems critical to the survival of American democracy. This argument is expressed in Hartmann's 2006 book, Screwed: The Undeclared War Against The Middle Class and What We Can Do About It. One of the book's main arguments is that media deregulation leads to corporate media's shifting the American consensus towards the acceptance of privatization and massive corporate profits – which causes the shrinking of the middle class.

In the book Ultimate Sacrifice, he and co-author Lamar Waldron argue that President John F. Kennedy's assassination resulted from a conspiracy by two Mafia godfathers (Carlos Marcello and Santo Trafficante, Jr.) who took advantage of a proposed 1963 USA-sponsored coup against Cuba's Fidel Castro to kill the President and then hide their tracks in the resulting cover-up of the top-secret coup plans. Gore Vidal, in his autobiography Point To Point Navigation devotes much of the final two chapters of his book to praising Hartmann's and Lamar Waldron's scholarship in "solving" the JFK case (JFK was a friend of Vidal's).

In a 2013 interview with Politico, Hartmann described his political philosophy as democratic socialism: “I’ve lived in Europe. I think that the countries that call themselves democratic socialist — Germany, France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland — have the most functional political and economic system. So, somebody says, what’s your political philosophy? I’d say Democratic socialism. But boy, the crap you take when you say socialist. Because people don’t understand it. They think I’m talking about Soviet-style socialism, which I’m not.”[35]


I agree with the majority of that. I've always been a social democrat, and at one type worked and succeeded in my district for socialists. That was from reading the New Testament, as it seemed to the modern version of how early Christians were described to live in communities. Some communist slogans come directly from that part of the Bible.

I've never been a religious fanatic, but see it can be part of a social framework to do things for life, saving people, animals, plants, marine life and the air and water intact for future generations. No one seems to care about this anymore, they are interested in the market, thus money and commodifying all living things to mean no more than dead things, and the condition does not matter, so long as money is made in satanic mathematics.

LeVey said in a television, IIRC, 'I give you Ayn Rand with trappings.' Rand was a drug addicted sociopath, who did not care for anyone living but herself and her own wants. She advocated their being used as nothing but machines and discarded.

Surely this is wrong, just as the Nazis gathered the belongings and weighed and measured them for sale, of those they sent to die in camps. If I want addle pated reasoning, I'm sure someone in the middle of DT's could provide just as good and useful of a philosophy.

Those who find nuggets of truth in her writings deny their own advantages from a social democracy that she wanted to destroy but used when she needed it. She was the ultimate parasite on society.

I believe the Democratic Party, or people like Bernie Sanders who votes with the Democratic Party to get things done, is the only way to achieve what I feel needs to be done.

People die waiting for socialism of the classic variety, while the mixed kind in Europe has yielded great results for individuals just as such policies here have. Misinformation and conflation about socialism and social democracy is a lie created by the business class in this nation to do things that are despicable.

Obama's words directly to the people there:

President Obama's Message to the People of the Central African Republic

by Grant T. Harris - December 09, 2013

In recent weeks, government affiliated armed groups and independent “self-defense” militias have committed shocking and horrific atrocities against innocent civilians in the Central African Republic. The United States is actively supporting the international community’s efforts to end the violence, protect civilians, prevent atrocities, provide humanitarian assistance, and help create an environment that allows constitutional and democratic governance to be restored.

In an audio message taped in Dakar, Senegal, today, President Obama sent a clear and important message to the people of the Central African Republic: that they should reject the violence currently threatening their country, and move together toward a future of security, dignity, and peace.


Mbi bala ala kouè. This is President Barack Obama, and today I want to speak directly to you—the people of the Central African Republic.

I know that in your lives you have faced great hardship. But I also know that you’ve lived together in peace—as diverse and vibrant communities, Christian and Muslim. Together, you celebrate a proud history and a land of extraordinary beauty. Together, you emerged from colonialism and achieved independence. Together, you realize that we are all children of God and that—whatever our faith—we all deserve to live in peace and dignity.

But the awful violence of recent days threatens the country you love. Innocent men, women and children have been killed. Families have fled their homes. And we know from the bitter experience of other countries what happens when societies descend into violence and retribution. Today, my message to you is simple: it doesn’t have to be this way. You—the proud citizens of the Central African Republic—have the power to choose a different path.

Respected leaders in your communities—Muslim and Christian—are calling for calm and peace. I call on the transitional government to join these voices and to arrest those who are committing crimes. Individuals who are engaging in violence must be held accountable—in accordance with the law. Meanwhile, as forces from other African countries and France work to restore security, the United States will support their efforts to protect civilians.

Most of all, every citizen of the Central African Republic can show the courage that’s needed right now. You can show your love for your country by rejecting the violence that would tear it apart. You can choose peace. You can choose to live up to the rule that is at the heart of all great faiths— that we treat other people the way we want to be treated ourselves.

That is how we honor our faiths. That is how reconciliation occurs. That’s how the Central African Republic can move forward—and return to a better path, toward a future where you and your fellow citizens can seek the security and dignity and peace you deserve.


I love it when I wake up in the morning and Barack Obama is President!

But we're at war with Syria. We've always been at war with Syria. And Libya. Besides...

Well, 3 out of 4 wrong ain't bad, huh?

My visions of Wall Street border between two songs by Papa Roach and Aerosmith.

Getting Away with Murder

and Love in an Elevator.

There is little difference in the two, but the first is bit darker. Although they didn't offend me, I won't post the videos and start a fuss.

And yes, they revel in what they do and they are getting away with murder.

Wall Street with Michael Douglas reflected the Bain - Romney pattern. Make war on anyone you can. It doesn't matter, if you get away with it. Some of the big banking houses are said to be descendants of pirates. This is a good thing, like a hunter catching its prey. All other people are their prey, and they rob from them. They laugh at this kind of protest:


Because they aren't going to jump and they are not afraid of dishonor. That was a different generation that has since passed on an been replaced with a new breed. For them, winning is everything, there are no morals.

There has always been this element in human society, and it has been the power of government that taxes them and reclaimed their stolen booty. Now many Americans have come to think the same thing, government taxes and regulations are restricting freedom.

Whose freedom are you talking about, is what I think they should be asked.

And a Merry Christmas to you who has kept us informed. There are many who never heard of DU who are

living, or living berter lives, since the ACA became law in 2010. I know a number personally who are among them who have had their hearts eased by finally being recognized a people, and not by the size of their wallets. As I have said many times, their lives - and being alive - matters.

One example not covered by media:

The truth about the ACA, from 2010! What media refused to show!


Naturally, we don't know the stories of the millions grateful for the ACA. That was one family, photogenic and middle class, with something to lose.

There are millions who are not so situated, poor, disabled and always disadvantaged with chronic health problems, or unpopular diseases.

They had to make the decision of going to see a doctor but said no because it meant financial catastrophe including homelessness for their survivors. Or just because they knew after being sent away, they were not going to get help, no matter how they begged. Their lives were not valued more than money.

As a matter of policy, save some of our great, but aging bleeding hearts like Bernie, we've not been valuing the lives of people we don't know. And as I have said, there are many out there most people cannot imagine, and in many cases don't want to know.

So they're hated or totally ignored. Obama holds a belief in the equality of all, even the unpopular, poor or considered to be of no economic use. I thank him and Bernie and all those like them who understand this truth..

Have a great New Year, ProSense, you certainly deserve it. Thanks.

Excellent post. Fortunately, they share:

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