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Joe Biden on April 5, 2013:
"The affirmative task we have now is to actually create a new world order..."
Kerry talked about it during confirmation hearings as well
and Max Baucus who had single payer advocates arrested at a hearing
which, not surprisingly, is almost completely forgotten
Baucuss Raucous Caucus: Doctors, Nurses and Activists Arrested Again for Protesting Exclusion of Single-Payer Advocates at Senate Hearing on Healthcare
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/5/13/baucus_raucus_caucus_doctors_nurses_and
If a Republican had done that this board would have been outraged. And have never forgotten it.
Mitt got his idea from a Heritage Foundation paper
from 1989
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_foundation#Policy_influence
Here is the paper by Stewart Butler:
By Stuart M. Butler
2) Mandate all households to obtain adequate insurance. Many states now require passengers in automobiles to wear seatbelts for their own protection. Many others require anybody driving a car to have liability insurance. But neither the federal government nor any state requires all households to protect themselves from the potentially catastrophic costs of a serious accident or illness. Under the Heritage plan, there would be such a requirement.
This mandate is based on two important principles. First, that health care protection is a responsibility of individuals, not businesses. Thus to the extent that anybody should be required to provide coverage to a family, the household mandate assumes that it is the family that carries the first responsibility. Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection.
If a young man wrecks his Porsche and has not had the foresight to obtain insurance, we may commiserate but society feels no obligation to repair his car. But health care is different. If a man is struck down by a heart attack in the street, Americans will care for him whether or not h e has insurance. If we find that he has spent his money on other things rather than insurance, we may be angry but we will not deny him services - even if that means more prudent citizens end up paying the tab. A mandate on individuals recognizes this implicit contract....MORE
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assuring-affordable-health-care-for-all-americans
How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate
Avik Roy 10/20/2011 Forbes.com
This came up at Tuesdays Western Republican Leadership Conference Debate, where Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich tussled on the question:
ROMNEY: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.
GINGRICH: Thats not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.
ROMNEY: Yes, we got it from you, and you got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.
GINGRICH: Wait a second. What you just said is not true. You did not get that from me. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.
ROMNEY: And you never supported them?
GINGRICH: I agree with them, but Im just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasnt true.
(CROSSTALK)
ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?
GINGRICH: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.
ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?
ROMNEY: Oh, OK. Thats what Im saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.
GINGRICH: OK. A little broader.
ROMNEY: OK.
"Heritage did put forward the idea of an individual mandate, though it predated HillaryCare by several years. We know this because we were there: In 1988-90, we were employed at Heritage as a public relations associate (a junior writer and editor), and we wrote at least one press release for a publication touting Heritages plan for comprehensive legislation to provide universal quality, affordable health care.
As a junior publicist, we werent being paid for our personal opinions. But we are now, so you will be the first to know that when we worked at Heritage, we hated the Heritage plan, especially the individual mandate. Universal health care was neither already established nor inevitable, and we thought the foundation had made a serious philosophical and strategic error in accepting rather than disputing the left-liberal notion that the provision of quality, affordable health care to everyone was a proper role of government. As to the mandate, we remember reading about it and thinking: I thought we were supposed to be for freedom....more
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservative-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/
Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on its Executive Council
Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on its Executive Council
8/25/2010 2:01pm by Joe Sudbay
http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html
One member of the DLCs executive council is none other than Koch Industries, the privately held, Kansas-based oil company whose namesake family members are avatars of the far right, having helped to found archconservative institutions like the Cato Institute and Citizens for a Sound Economy. Not only that, but two Koch executives, Richard Fink and Robert P. Hall III, are listed as members of the board of trustees and the event committee, respectivelymeaning that they gave significantly more than $25,000.
The DLC board of trustees is an elite body whose membership is reserved for major donors, and many of the trustees are financial wheeler-dealers who run investment companies and capital management firmsthough senior executives from a handful of corporations, such as Koch, Aetna, and Coca-Cola, are included.
http://prospect.org/article/how-dlc-does-it
Fitting, isnt it? The entity that tries to undermine the progressive agenda from within the Democratic Party was getting funding from the guys who are trying to destroy the Democratic Party from the outside.
Just a side note: The DLCs long-time CEO, Bruce Reed, is now the Executive Director of the Obama administrations Debt Commission, a.k.a. the Cat Food Commission.
The Rightwing Koch Brothers Fund the DLC
February 09, 2006
http://www.democrats.com/node/7789
"Sure, the DLC took some Koch money" --Ed Kilgore, the DLC's policy director.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7971-2004Oct28_4.html
Bill Clinton- Chair of the DLC -19901991. Hillary - prominent member of the DLC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council
fuel from water (H20- Hydrogen) powered by solar photovoltaics- Free!
Former Area 51 employee Bob Lazar is interviewed by Visual Effects Supervisor Jon Farhat. In this video, they discuss what H1 (hydrogen) is, how it is created and it's potential in the automotive sector. In addition, Bob show us he has his own particle accelerator which he uses to create 6Li (lithium-6) H (hydride) for H1 storage.
Honda makes cars that run on hydrogen right now!!
Honda unveiled the FCX Clarity fuel cell vehicle at the 2007 Los Angeles Auto Show, and an announced that a limited number of southern Californians will have the opportunity to lease one in the next few years. This is the first time a customer can obtain a fuel cell car directly from a retail dealer. The company is also showing progress with the creation of a hydrogen home fueling station...
http://www.hybridcars.com/honda-fcx-clarity-hydrogen-home-refueling/
President Obama Speaks on the Trans-Pacific Partnership
Fascinating. Does anyone do any research anymore before making statements?
She's happy to tell you
but not very often
As long as the media ignores it and the "leaders" keep their lips zipped this thing is a done deal.
Fast track and "It's the Law" with a stroke of the pen.
with no disrespect intended to you, a vegetarian that eats fish is not a vegetarian
Like Dr. Terry Mason says in Forks over Knives (a must see movie recommended by Doremus) - "If it walked, hopped, swam, crawled, had eyes and a mom and dad- don't eat it"
If everyone saw Forks over Knives and used that knowledge the USA would start on the road to better health. Costs would actually start dropping. Mandated insurance payments would be lower not higher.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forks_Over_Knives
and a funny thing- he's making a right wing argument
the argument that the Heritage Foundation made when it proposed the mandate in the first place.
2) Mandate all households to obtain adequate insurance. Many states now require passengers in automobiles to wear seatbelts for their own protection. Many others require anybody driving a car to have liability insurance. But neither the federal government nor any state requires all households to protect themselves from the potentially catastrophic costs of a serious accident or illness. Under the Heritage plan, there would be such a requirement.
Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection. If a young man wrecks his Pors c he and has not had the foresight to obtain insurance, we may commiserate but society feels no obligation to repair his car.
But health care is different. If a man is struck down by a heart attack in the street, Americans will care for him whether or not h e has insurance. If we find that he has spent his money on other things rather than insurance, we may be angry but we will not deny him services - even if that means more prudent citizens end up paying the tab. A mandate on individuals recognizes this impl i cit contract.
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assuring-affordable-health-care-for-all-americans
As far as I can tell, the New Democrats stand for Mandatory Insurance Purchases, Drone bombing weddings, 24/7 surveillance from cradle to grave and bailing out big banks that are "too big to fail".
It's surreal. Even more so when those that don't agree with the above are called Right Wingers or Racists.
We're in Bizarroworld!
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