July 3, 2022

why we democrats lose the messaging

Whenever the going gets tough, we tear at each other instead of standing behind and supporting the president.

Case in point, MSNBC hosts, especially weekend hosts have guests on their shows going on about how democrats weren't prepared for the overturning of Roe vs Wade, how the president is somehow not waving a magic wand and fix this or that, how we are not getting rid of filibuster and a plethora of other simplistic suggestions like it's just a matter of doing this or that.

They are oblivious to the fact that the votes are not there and until we get more senators and hold the house, there is very little that can be done short of saturating the airwaves with get out the votes messages and reminding people what the GOP now stands for.

On the other side, you have a huge network of right wing media (Fox, OAN, radio , etc..) who are all pushing in the same direction to support the MAGATS.

July 2, 2022

how do you read a DU thread ?

Im curious as how you guys read a DU thread before contributing to it. Personally, I read or at least skim through all the existing posts in the thread before adding to it.

I've seen threads spinning out of control where it seems some posters completely ignore something upthread and post an angry response based on incomplete information or a misunderstanding which had been cleared up earlier in the thread.

June 24, 2022

I'm really curious as of whether or not the flurry of DOJ subpoenas

on the fake electors, the search warrant the fbi executed at Clark's house were planned before the hearings or not ?

I would think that the DOJ would need to dot the i's and cross the t's before raiding Clark's house for example so it would seem unlikely they decided when watching hearings a few days before.

But who knows ? is it that the DOJ felt pressure or that it just so happen they were ready to proceed and this coincided with the hearings ?
I guess they also may have decided to wait until hearings so that it's out in the open and they don't collide with the commitee ?

I can't wait to learn in the future what actually happened when somebody writes their memoir on the events of the day ..

June 23, 2022

Damm the entire gop congress was begging to get pardons

We are gonna need bigger jails at that rate...

June 23, 2022

in order to avert a repeat in 2024

those responsible for this coup attempt should be punished. It looks very likely that the DOJ is moving to indict several of them like Clark whose house was just raided by the fbi, Eastman, probably Rudy and a few of the prominent people in the fake elector scheme.

I am hoping they get to Trump himself. However if they don't, do you guys think that all the other prosecutions will have enough of a chilling effect to convince people not to go along with similar bullshit in 2024 lest they end up in jail ?

June 22, 2022

The full implication of De Santis ever winning the presidency just hit me.

In the aftermath of the latest hearings fox news analysts were saying Trump has criminal exposure and may be in trouble.

This is a stunning development. Maybe the fox overlords have decided to finally ditch Trump and back De Santis.

If that's the case it's imperative we break the filibuster asap ( hopefully after November if we gain enough senate seats) to pass voting rights laws. Getting out the vote is crucial.

My thinking is that De Santis has been ruthlessly effective in Florida at getting the legislature to pass all sorts of horrible things.

If he gets to the white house he will have an Agenda and unlike Trump will push it effectively. He will get the gop senate to drop the filibuster if they get senate and house and pass laws that will bring us to the point of no return.

There will be no " oh but we have the filibuster" to save us.

June 18, 2022

messaging, MAGA style

A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”—Mark Twain.

I believe that the QGOP cult has been so effective at brainwashing people to vote against their own interests because they are adept at planting seeds for conspiracy theories. In recent years the GOP has understood that with the social media platforms they can do this very well.

Here is a recent example in this thread

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142931411

where a Florida congressman tweets that Nancy Pelosi and CNN were in cahoot to orchestrate some kind of propaganda operation on the floor of congress.

Of course, it was totally false, and that congressman later deleted the tweet quietly.

Meanwhile his followers saw it, some retweeted it, etc..
You can bet its now part of the MAGA lore that Nancy Pelosi and CNN are up to no good. These people will never see the debunking.

The GOP knows that and uses this method very effectively. I am not sure how we combat that.

June 15, 2022

Regarding casing the capitol on January 5th.

I am pretty sure that there is a video showing a woman ( the pink hat woman ) telling insurgents where to go as they were breaking through a window, explicitly saying she had been there the day before.

I will see if I can find it. I remember because at the time people were debating who was that pink hat woman.

on edit:

In yet another video, she stands outside a broken window, shouting instructions through the bullhorn to rioters inside. Powell says, “I’ve been in the other room,” and appears to outline a plan involving breaking a pane of glass to get into another part of the Capitol

From this article:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-pennsylvania-mothers-path-to-insurrection-capitol-riot

June 15, 2022

hehe. the NY AG Letitia James was watching the hearings..

She tweeted :

The new details revealed tonight related to January 6 are disturbing.
it's my duty to investigate allegations of fraud or potential misconduct in New York.

This incident is no exception.

related to the big grift.

Somebody is in deeper trouble..



https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1536535752502280193?t=QIiqW6GfxVrfJOO6-Ohw1g&s=19

June 13, 2022

not only was it the big lie it was the big ripoff.

representative lofgren in her closing statement.
This sets up another interesting line of investigation for next hearings