snowy owl
snowy owl's JournalClinton appeals to more elite in democratic party - it's class hierarchy
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/opinion/campaign-stops/how-the-other-fifth-lives.htmlBernie Sanders has tried to capitalize on this built-in tension within the Democratic primary electorate, but Hillary Clinton has so far been able to skate over intraparty conflicts. In the New York primary, for example, she did better among voters making $100,000 or more than among the less affluent, while simultaneously carrying African-Americans and moderate Democrats of all races by decisive margins.
As more and more of us move into desperate situations financially and as the middle class continues to dwindle, we will be the worse for choosing the status quo. She is one of the elite. That's what you bought.
I've noticed few people actually go to original articles. This isn't talking about the 1% - but about the top 20%.
In 2012, of people with incomes less than $10K, 46% voted. In 2014, 24% - almost half.
In 2012, of people with incomes $10K to $15K, 48%. In 2014, 31%.
In 2012, of people with incomes $40K to $49K, 60%. In 2014, 40%.
Bernie is bringing back our democracy - he's getting people to vote again.
Jeff Merkley on Hayes MSNBC responding to allegation Sanders hasn't done anything...so he lists them
Chris' allegations that people don't think much of him. Personally, I think Hayes lied. I think he's doing right here what MSNBC has all their hosts doing: totally unprofessional and dishonest shilling for Clinton. No video clip of this exchange was available that I could find. Scroll down for entire interview.
Excerpt here:
HAYES: Let me ask you this. As you talk about those issues which have
sort of come center piece in this campaign, when I`ve talked to other
members of the Senate caucus on the Democratic side, they would say the
following thing to me. They say, well, we`ve worked with both of them,
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and I`m endorsing Hillary Clinton and
I was left to think they didn`t think much of Bernie Sanders frankly as a
senator. They thought he wasn`t particularly effective.
What are you seeing in him that they are not?
MERKLEY: Well, actually, I think that`s way off the mark. Bernie`s
comments are deeply listened to and widely respected and he has this record
of effectiveness that many people are aware of, particularly those who
served in the House. When he was mayor of Burlington, he preceded to
reshape the waterfront. He had a baseball team. He set them up as a
lovable city, as a kind of a model for the nation.
When he was in the House, out of 435 members of the House, he was known as
the king of amendments, the single House member most effective in getting
amendments past, and these were things relevant to working Americans.
And in the Senate, he has proceeded to be the leader on expanding our
federally qualified health centers, which are the front door for millions
of Americans to our health care system. And he put together a bipartisan
veterans bill that is the most important veterans bill we`ve had in years,
and he`s taken the lead and taken on chained CPI to make sure that our
seniors didn`t get shortchanged. And the list goes on. So
Later Sherrod Brown chimes in but moves the conversation in another direction. He doesn't really focus on Bernie even though that was the question asked by Hayes. My take: Brown doesn't really want to get into it or diss Bernie at all.
HAYES: Behind the scenes, an unnamed senior adviser was feeling not quite
as magnanimous and telling Politico last night, quote, We kicked his ass
tonight. I hope this convinces Bernie to tone it down. If not, F him.
Joining me now, Senator Jeff Merkley, Democrat from Oregon, so far the only
member of the Senate to endorse Bernie Sanders.
Senator, tell me tell me about your timing in this. One of the things
that struck me when I saw the news of your endorsement was the timing.
You`re the first senator to endorse him. You`re endorsing fairly late in
this cycle and you`re endorsing at a time when it seems his odds of winning
have receded considerably, which is the opposite of what politicians
usually do.
SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D), OREGON: Yes, I`m just not a very good politician,
Chris. That`s what it boils down to.
I really felt that I should make an endorsement as we were preparing to
vote in Oregon. We vote by mail. The ballots go out on April 28th. They
will be out for a better part of 2 1/2 weeks and so I wanted to endorse two
weeks while basically before the ballots go out and while Oregonians are
really starting to pay attention.
HAYES: I want to get your reaction to what Jeff Weaver said last night,
which has caused quite a stir. As the Sanders supporter, the idea that the
Sanders campaign would essentially after June 7th, were it to be behind in
pledged delegates and super delegates, attempt to persuade super delegates
to come over to them and take that to the convention. Do you think that`s
a good strategy?
MERKLEY: Well, it really reflects different messages coming out of a
campaign, which, you know, happens in a complicated, rush campaign, because
the core of the message is look, there is still a path to victory here.
Yes, yes, he lost in New York, but he lost by less in New York than
President Obama lost eight years previously. He did a percent better. So,
it`s all how you frame it.
And, certainly, Hillary Clinton home state senator, home state turf, she
campaigned in her Senate races, in every village and borough. And she knew
the state inside out, so it was an extraordinary challenge.
There are other challenges ahead that present different circumstances and
right now, there are just a massive amount of citizens and grassroots
organizations who are saying, we have to change the model of how our
economy and our political system works, and the person who understands the
fact that we must change that is Bernie Sanders.
For we`ve now been through this period of 40 years, four decades, in
which nine out of ten citizens have seen no benefit from the increase in
American wealth. That is 100 percent of the new income has gone to the top
10 percent. There`s something wrong people understand there is
something wrong when nine out of ten citizens and families are not
benefitting while the wealth of the nation grows up. So
(clipped part repositioned above)
HAYES: You just named a bunch of fights that are a good reminder of some
of the fights they`re having right now in the U.S. Senate. I want to
follow up with our next guest about that.
Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley, thanks for joining us tonight. I
appreciate it.
MERKLEY: You`re very welcome.
HAYES: All right. Joining me now is Senator Sherrod Brown, Democrat from
Ohio, who has endorsed Hillary Clinton for president.
Great to see you, Senator.
Let me start with your reaction to last night and what Jeff Weaver said. I
mean, are you one of the people who thinks that there`s some danger that
the Sanders campaign has entered into in the territory its in, in terms of
possible lasting damage they could do to Hillary Clinton should she become
the nominee.
SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D), OHIO: No, I applaud Bernie for what he`s done.
Jeff, in fact, Senator Merkley and I, Jeff and I, on the floor, had a long
conversation today about sort of his reasons for Bernie, my reasons for
Hillary. It was clear that it really is we should be talking about what
unites us, not what divides us. I understand the political campaign,
debate after debate after debate.
HAYES: Right.
BROWN: There is contentiousness. But contrast our side with theirs, where
they call each other names and attacked each other`s families. You know,
ours are talking issues.
And I you know, there`s some slight differences on Dodd-Frank, for
instance, but both candidates, like Jeff Merkley, Jeff sits with me on the
banking committee, he fights hard to protect what we`ve gained with Dodd-
Frank. I`d like to go a little further, I think what regulators did this
week on something called living wills is a big, big deal. It will mean the
banks very likely may get smaller because of federal rules about their
capital standards and about their stability and safety and soundness. I
think we`re doing that right. I think we can move a little faster.
One of the things I do in banking committees is put pressure on them and
one of the other things I do is through my website through outside pressure
and I ask people to come and help us join that fight where we can get
people outside to keep putting the pressure on the Senate to make sure
there are no compromises and weakening of Dodd-Frank.
HAYES: Yes, I want to talk about that because one of the issues in this
campaign has been about the sort of what threats a new Democratic president
might face in terms of retrenchment, in terms of consolidating some of the
accomplishments of the Obama administration. I mean, there are attacks all
the time happening right now in the Senate on Dodd-Frank for instance, on
regulatory structures that have been put in place that have to be beaten
back ceaselessly.
BROWN: Yes, last week, and of all places, the agricultural committee. And
that`s where we regulate something called the Commodities Future Trading
Commission. It`s where we regulate derivatives. The Republicans have
created tried to create this huge Koch brothers loophole where farmers
need to hedge risks to be sure on crops and weather and price and all that,
but the Republicans want to make the farmers exception, farmers and
ranchers, turn into the Koch brothers exception on the oil industry, which
turns into billions and billions of dollars. We fight back against that.
The Republicans because they`re so controlled by a few big mega donors,
especially the Koch brothers, are always going do their bidding and there`s
always a Koch brothers loophole when regulatory issues, my position on
banking and ag, agricultural, are the places to fight back and I will
continue that. I expect Republicans because of the fuel of their party is
their interests groups we`ve got to be ready and continue to fight
regardless of when Hillary Clinton I believe will be president and when she
is president.
HAYES: All right. Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, thank you for
joining us. Appreciate it.
BROWN: Thanks.
HAYES: Still to come, the first criminal charges to come out of the Flint
water crisis were announced today, but the attorney general says they`re
only the beginning. We`ll look at that just ahead.
Map of NY showing Clinton vs. Sanders by regions - looks like $$$ went for HRC
NY went for Bernie except in high-rent areas. What does that say? How many Latinos and Blacks do not vote? I don't know. Just asking...
Wish someone could link map graphic.
Former REM singer Michael Stipe introduces Bernie
"At the rally, Stipe praised Sanders as "a man with an unflappable position on issues that are important to me, like LGBTQ rights, environmental justice and equality. Whether we're talking about pay equity, a living wage for all fulltime employees or making sure Main Street doesn't suffer because of Wall Street, Bernie Sanders walks the walk and talks the talk in terms of fairness.
"Over the years of traveling across the United States and outside of America with my former band, I have discovered within myself an underlying but potent appreciation for justice and common decency," Stipe added. "I seek out leaders who represent themselves honestly and fairly, and who share the same appreciation of justice."
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/watch-michael-stipe-stump-for-bernie-sanders-in-brooklyn-20160411#ixzz45aC2kSfd
Fox Media Buzz discussed "qualified" meme - worth watching 11 pm EST/8 PT Good disc.
Showed complete clip of Bernie with the IF word setting it up...better than MSNBC LOCKED UP - good grief! I don't watch the discussion of republican candidates but you get some decent and frankly less personalized discussions of dem candidates. Worth a try if you're afraid of Fox News (which I used to call faux news). Some of their non-political programs are darned good.
OMG! Shut Barney Frank up! Anybody see him vs Reich today?
Ge even offended Reich in his out-of-control blather and he contstantly is talking over Reich. And Reich gets cut off as did Nina Turner when arguing Blustery Frank. Thanks Chris. You should be able to control your show. I just turned the station.
Barney Franks blusters again msnbc; Nina Turner gets word in edgewise
Over and over he's all about how all of the establishment is for Hillary and his message is "who will work for Bernie." Idiot. They all will if they care about their jobs at all. OMG I can't stand Barney "the old blusterer" Frank. Stay retired, Barney.
They returned with video of Hillary and I turned the channel.
Profile Information
Member since: Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:40 AMNumber of posts: 2,145