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Astros Fire Assistant GM Brandon Taubman After Roberto Osuna Comments

They initially thought the comments weren’t directed at the reporter, until they interviewed more people who said were there. Which put them in the unusual position of firing a coach in the middle of the World Series.

Posted by Clash City Rocker | Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:19 PM (1 replies)

Watching Ken Burns' great Civil War documentary again, I heard this Lincoln quote

“As a nation, we began by declaring that 'all men are created equal.' We now practically read it 'all men are created equal, except negroes.' When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”

And a few minutes later, this quote, also from Lincoln...

"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves, and, under a just God, cannot long retain it."

How sad that some Americans today still need to learn the lessons that Lincoln was trying to teach.
Posted by Clash City Rocker | Sat Oct 12, 2019, 03:58 PM (3 replies)

If anyone you know is still convinced Biden needs to be investigated

I suggest you show them Shokin’s Wikipedia page...


Since 2012, the Ukrainian prosecutor general had been investigating oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, owner of the oil and natural gas company Burisma Holdings, over allegations of money laundering, tax evasion, and corruption. In 2014, then-U.S. Vice President Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, joined the board of directors of Burisma Holdings. In 2015, Shokin became the prosecutor general, inheriting the investigation. The Obama administration and other governments and non-governmental organizations soon became concerned that Shokin was not adequately pursuing corruption in Ukraine, was protecting the political elite, and was regarded as "an obstacle to anti-corruption efforts". Among other issues, he was slow-walking the investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma – to the extent that Obama officials were considering launching their own criminal investigation into the company for possible money laundering.

While visiting Kiev in December 2015, Joe Biden threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko that if he did not fire Shokin, that the US would hold back its $1 billion in loan guarantees. "I looked at them and said, 'I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money.' [...] He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time." Shokin was dismissed by Parliament in late March 2016.

In a sworn notarized affidavit dated September 4, 2019, for a European court, Shokin testified that "On several occasions President Poroshenko asked me to have a look at the [criminal] case against Burisma and consider the possibility of winding down the investigative actions in respect of this company[,] but I refused to close this investigation."

Shokin claimed in May 2019 that he had been investigating Burisma Holdings. However, Vitaliy Kasko, who had been Shokin's deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, provided documents to Bloomberg News indicating that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant. Also, the investigation into Burisma only pertained to events happening before Hunter Biden joined the company.

So, to summarize...

The issues with Burisma happened before Hunter Biden joined the company.

The concerns with Shokin came from many countries, not just the US, and it concerned the fact that Shokin wasn’t prosecuting corruption. Trump’s assertion that he was doing too good a job is a flat-out lie.

Biden wasn’t trying to prevent an investigation, he was trying to encourage an investigation.

The subsequent investigation only happened after Shokin was removed, and no wrongdoing by either of the Bidens was found.
Posted by Clash City Rocker | Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:30 AM (12 replies)
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