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December 20, 2021

WaPo: Manchin's private offer to Biden

Full headline: Manchin’s private offer to Biden included pre-k, climate money, Obamacare — but excluded child benefit

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/12/20/manchin-biden-child-tax-credit/

Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) last week made the White House a concrete counteroffer for its spending bill, saying he would accept a $1.8 trillion package that included universal prekindergarten for 10 years, an expansion of Obamacare, and hundreds of billions of dollars to combat climate change, three people familiar with the matter said.

But Manchin’s counteroffer excluded an extension of the expanded Child Tax Credit the administration has seen as a cornerstone of President Biden’s economic legacy, the people said, an omission difficult for the White House to accept in the high-stakes negotiations. The people spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the closed-door deliberations.

Manchin’s private proposal to the White House — the details of which have not been previously reported — was made just days before a spectacular public collapse in negotiations between the White House and the West Virginia senator, marked by bitter and personal recriminations that left the status of the talks unclear.

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But it remains possible that the administration and Manchin could still reengage in talks, as common ground remains between the sides. While the precise details of Manchin’s offer remain unclear, it adheres to his repeated demand that Democrats fund for 10 years its economic programs — rather than reduce their top line cost by only funding them for a few years, people familiar with the matter said.


So it seems the big sticking points are

(1) Manchin wants everything in the bill to be fully funded for 10 years. This of course means they make a much bigger hit to the bottom line, and that means fewer things in it.

(2) The child tax credit. It would cost around $100 billion annually, so over ten years it would cost $1 trillion, which would likely crowd out a lot of the other priorities. President Biden really wants it, so this might be a hard gap to bridge.

What do you all think? Would something like Manchin's proposal be worth passing?
December 20, 2021

Vox: Two ways to read Manchin's "no" on Build Back Better

Like everyone else, I'm really angry with Joe Manchin today. It's one thing to disagree with your party, but it's quite another to torpedo such an important proposal on Fox with no advance notice and no opportunity for even the President to ask you to reconsider. But the annoying thing about being a Democrat is that we're supposed to be helping people, so as much as I'd like to tell Manchin to go jump in a lake, I still have to hope we can do something positive here.

For those of us looking for some sign of hope even while being angry, here's an interesting article from Vox:

https://www.vox.com/2021/12/19/22845122/manchin-build-back-better-psaki

Basically, it lays out two possibilities for whether we can get a scaled back version of BBB.

The first possibility, obviously, is that Manchin is a liar who is acting in bad faith. He never intended to support any version of BBB, and all of the five months of negotiations were just for show, or maybe to help get the infrastructure bill passed. In that case, there's clearly no hope and there's nothing to be done.

The second possibility, which the article lays out without fully endorsing, is that what Manchin wants is somewhat clear, and that some sort of compromise is still possible. As the article puts it:

Yet there’s another interpretation of Manchin’s comments, and of the past few months of Build Back Better developments, where Manchin has been the consistent one — and the problem is that Democrats haven’t been willing to make the compromises necessary to win him over.

From progressives’ perspective, they have been constantly making concessions to Manchin on Build Back Better all year: dropping their signature climate program from the bill, agreeing to drop paid leave, and significantly shrinking the bill’s overall size down from $3.5 trillion over 10 years.

But Manchin argues that, actually, they’ve changed very little. The bill remains a grab bag of practically all of Democrats’ domestic policy agenda, or at least everything that Senate rules will allow to pass through the budget reconciliation process. Democrats did drop some proposals, but the main device they used to lower the cost was to set programs to expire after just a few years (or even one year).

Manchin told Baier that, across the bill’s various versions, it was “basically the same amount of things that they were trying to accomplish.” He added, “If you’re going to do something, pick what our prized priorities are — like most people do in their families or their businesses — and you fund them for 10 years. And you make sure they deliver the services for 10 years. It’s hard to deliver service for one year or two years or five years.”


So in this scenario, Manchin thinks that the smaller bill is just the same $3.5 trillion bill in disguise. It's the Democrats' plan that the programs that are set to expire early get renewed, and so the programs end up costing that much anyway. And his appearance on FOX was his way of saying that he won't go along with this general approach-- instead, Democrats should choose a few things, fund those for the full 10 years, and spend at most $1.75 trillion or so doing it.

If that's the case, then maybe something is possible. And that would be a lot better than nothing.

What do you think? Is this simply the bargaining stage of grief? Or is there a chance that the last five months of talks were not all just for show?

November 3, 2021

Can the political pendulum be stopped?

For the last 70 or so years, ever since Harry Truman was president, American politics has hewn very closely to an 8-year cycle:

Year 0: A party wins the presidential election.
Year 2: The president's party loses House and Senate seats--often, a lot of them-- in the midterm elections.
Year 4: The president wins re-election.
Year 6: The president's party loses House and Senate seats--usually not as many-- in the midterm elections.
Year 8: The other party wins the presidential election.

Rinse and repeat.

There are a few exceptions to the rule, but they mostly seem to delay the cycle (as when Reagan/Bush held the White House for three terms ), or speed up the cycle (when Biden defeated Trump).

Every time, after the midterms, there's a lot of commentary about what the president and their party did wrong, and how it's a rebuke, etc. etc. At some point, though, when the same cycle keeps happening, no matter who is president, do we need to wonder that it's almost a natural phenomenon that we can affect, but not really fundamentally change? Maybe the American public wants to put a check on whoever is in charge. Maybe the outside party's voters are more energized and vote in larger numbers.

But somehow it seems that no matter what the president does, they never do well in midterms. Is it even possible to do well?

November 2, 2021

AP: Democrats reach drug price deal, Biden upbeat on Manchin

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats reached agreement Tuesday on plan to lower prescription drug costs for older people, capping out-of-pocket Medicare costs at $2,000 and reducing the price of insulin, salvaging a campaign promise as part of President Joe Biden’s $1.75 trillion domestic policy proposal.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer announced the deal, which is one of the few remaining provisions that needed to be resolved in Biden’s big package as the party moves closer to wrapping up negotiations. Schumer acknowledged it’s not as sweeping as Democrats had hoped for, but a compromise struck with one key holdout Democrat, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona.

And Biden sounded upbeat about winning overall backing from another holdout, Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, who threw the president’s plan in flux this week by refusing to endorse it.

“He will vote for this,” Biden said of Manchin during remarks at a global climate summit in Scotland.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-joe-manchin-congress-aff1136290d78abbfd7f4f7a9dc87c9e

November 2, 2021

Weird trend in Virginia

Ever since the 1976 presidential election, Virginia has elected a governor of the opposite party in the following year, with only one exception. That's ten times out of eleven. Spot the exception:

1976-77: Carter (D) -> Dalton (R)
1980-81: Reagan (R) -> Robb (D)
1984-85: Reagan (R) -> Baliles (D)
1988-89: Bush Sr. (R) -> Wilder (D)
1992-93: Clinton (D) -> Allen (R)
1996-97: Clinton (D) -> Gilmore (R)
2000-01: Bush Jr. (R) -> Warner (D)
2004-05: Bush Jr. (R) -> Kaine (D)
2008-09: Obama (D) -> McDonnell (R)
2012-13: Obama (D) -> McAuliffe (D)
2016-17: TFG (R) -> Northam (D)
2020-21: Biden (D) -> ???

So if McAuliffe pulls it out tomorrow, he will remain the only exception to a 40-year old trend.

September 30, 2021

Some other Senate votes today...

All eyes are on keeping the government open, a possible vote on the infrastructure package, and continued negotiations on the Build Back (reconciliation) package. But the Senate took a few other votes today too:

(1) On confirming Rohit Chopra to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Chopra has been championed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren on this. Chopra was confirmed 50-48, after a 50-50 vote on cloture.

(2) On an amendment to the government funding bill that would have prevented the government from spending money to enforce vaccine mandates. This failed on a 50-50 vote.

(3) On an amendment to limit the benefits received by Afghan refugees resettling in the United States. This also failed on a 50-50 vote.

On all three of these votes, every Democrat was on one side, and every Republican on the other. When I say every Democrat, I mean Sens. Manchin and Sinema as well. When I say every Republican, I mean Sens. Romney, Collins, Murkowski, and others who are sometimes less ideological.

Just something to keep in mind when you hear people call some people DINOs or no better than Republicans. These may have been three fairly minor votes, but Congress takes hundreds if not thousands of these, and their cumulative impact is large. I know Manchin and Sinema can be very frustrating to deal with at times. But in the end, there's a giant gulf between them and the nearest Republican.

September 30, 2021

Referring to the reconciliation package by its price tag is unfortunate.

It seems that the media has decided to refer to the big reconciliation bill as the "$3.5 trillion bill". This is all sorts of unfortunate, for quite a few reasons:

1. It means if people know one thing about the bill, it's the slightly eye-popping price tag. It doesn't say anything about what's actually in the bill. I'll bet most voters don't really know how it would affect them.

2. It obscures the fact that the $3.5 trillion is actually spread out over ten years. In terms of federal spending, $350 billion a year is not all that much.

3. It means any trimming of the package will be seen as a compromise at best or a defeat at worst. If the bill gets slimmed down to, say, $2 trillion, it would still be one of the biggest social investments in modern American history. But all critics will say is that we lost half of it.

Unfortunately, it's probably too late to change the popular shorthand for the bill. I guess the semi-official name is the Build Back Better Act, but that's a bit vague as well. Oh well.

September 2, 2021

So many people to thank for today...

Every reporter and editor who thought that EMAILS!!! was the most important issue in recorded history.

Susan Sarandon, Nina Turner, Walker Bragman, Briahna Joy, and the rest of the Berniesphere who spread the myth of the rigged primary.

All the rest of the Bernie or Busters who voted third party.

James F. Comey and his gargantuan preening ego.

Thank you. We wouldn't have our teetering democracy and loss of rights without you.

June 8, 2021

A Halfhearted Defense of Joe Manchin

There's been a lot of uproar over Joe Manchin these days, and for understandable reason. He's announced his opposition to a number of key Democratic proposals, and is dead set against weakening or eliminating the filibuster. If he changed his mind, we might be able to pass a lot of important laws. (Or maybe not. He's not the only one still stuck on the filibuster.)

By one measure, he's the worst Democratic senator we have: In the 116th Congress (2019-2020), Manchin voted against his party more than any other senator, at around 26% of the time. (Oddly enough, Ed Markey, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are also in the top ten, but we can probably assume they tended to disagree with the party from the left, not the right, and probably didn't do so when it really mattered.)

So out with Manchin, right?

Well, maybe not.

By another measure, Manchin might actually be among the most valuable Democratic senators we have. Intuitively, we all understand that California, New York, and Massachusetts are almost guaranteed to give us Democratic senators who always support the party line. Those senators are great, but their replacements would also be great. But if Sherrod Brown (OH) or Jon Tester (MT) were to get abducted by aliens? There's a better than 50% chance their replacement would be a Republican. And frankly, if Joe Manchin were to disappear, there's basically a zero percent chance his replacement would be anything but one of the most conservative of Republicans. (Seriously-- he might be the only person who is capable of being elected as a Democrat in West Virginia.)

So what if instead we looked at Democrats not just be how much often they vote with us, but how much they vote with us compared with their likely replacement? (In baseball terms, this is called Value Over Replacement Player, or VORP.) In that case, here are the value-over-replacement scores of a few Democratic senators:

Jon Tester (MT): 77% (votes with Dems 92% of the time; 15% chance he's replaced by another Democrat)
Joe Manchin (WV): 74% (votes with Dems 74% of the time; 0% chance he's replaced by another Democrat)
Sherrod Brown (OH): 52% (voted with Dems 92% of the time; 40% chance he's replaced by another Democrat)
Bob Casey (PA), Tammy Baldwin (WI): 45% (voted with Dems 95% of time, 50% chance they're replaced by another Democrat)
Ben Cardin (MD) and most others: 0% (voted with Dems 95% of time, 95% chance he's replaced by another Democrat)

So yes, I get it. While every headline that says that Manchin won't support this or that sets my teeth on edge and makes me want to curse, I understand the reality is that we're pretty lucky to get anything at all out of West Virginia.

Or here's another comparison: Doug Jones (AL) voted with Dems 79% of the time. I think most of us probably like him more than Manchin-- he was more loyal and took tough stances despite being from a very red state. And for the 2019-2020 Senate, he was more valuable than Manchin. But then he lost, and his idiot GOP replacement never votes with us. In the end, which of the two approaches is better? I can argue both ways. But there's a real argument to be made for Manchin, as much as it pains me to say so.

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