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In reply to the discussion: If you ever voted for a Green Party candidate, or worse, donated to one.... [View all]Gothmog
(182,233 posts)92. Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 for a reason
Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html
Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Naders campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the APs Laura Meckler headlined GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads. She opened: Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of, Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: Whats Al Gores real record? Nader says: Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken. Mecklers report continued: A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Naders speeches. Bushs people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....
On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independents Bid a Financial Lift, and reported that the Nader campaign has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party, according to an analysis of federal records. Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egans other friends. Mr. Egans wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year. Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under Swift Boat Veterans for Nader, that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerrys Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Naders signatures in their state (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing states 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bushs big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.
It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bushs real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. Thats why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.
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If you ever voted for a Green Party candidate, or worse, donated to one.... [View all]
scheming daemons
Dec 2017
OP
That what you just said could be argued with by anyone claiming to know what is going on
Eliot Rosewater
Dec 2017
#126
Right..how many times have you won? I would wager that had you not split the vote...the Democrats
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#78
A Green is not a Democrat first of all. I did read it. I won't back Greens myself.
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#153
Ok...it would be better if nobody had ever voted for a Green Party presidential candidate.
Ken Burch
Dec 2017
#7
Yes...voting Green means you are not suporting the Democrat...splitting the vote...and in my
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#81
Except that you rarely see call-out threads about Dems who used to vote GOP here.
Ken Burch
Dec 2017
#124
OFFS. This again? Why not blame Union Members. 42% of them voted for trump.
progressoid
Dec 2017
#14
I do blame any who voted for Trump...as for 'registered' Democrats...people change but don't
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#109
I don't know why you have a soft spot for the Greens, but I hate to break it to you, we're not
DanTex
Dec 2017
#136
I can't speak for chwaliszewski, but it's not about having a soft spot for Greens. It's about
progressoid
Dec 2017
#149
If it were really about "not wasting time" then the Green defenders here wouldn't waste their
DanTex
Dec 2017
#150
The Greens are dead to me ...fuck them...Stein may finally get caught this time...hope she
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#84
Yes. If you vote 3rd party, you are helping the worst of the 2 parties.
scheming daemons
Dec 2017
#185
Supporting Greens in safe blue states helps them get momentum to get votes in battleground states
Lee-Lee
Dec 2017
#21
This is a site for Democratic supporters. Read the TOS. Then read the definition of censorship. SMH.
Squinch
Dec 2017
#29
Again, it is against the TOS to support non Democrats. Unlike you, I have read the TOS.
Squinch
Dec 2017
#33
When you compare support for Democrats to Trumpism, you are supporting non-Democrats.
Squinch
Dec 2017
#38
I gave you three. Yes, I am saying we vote for Democrats and not other parties. As is
Squinch
Dec 2017
#43
LOL! Aren't you the brave little toaster. Though your TOS reading skills are limited.
Squinch
Dec 2017
#50
And they often use their votes self-destructively, as the OP is pointing out, giving us Trump(R).
Squinch
Dec 2017
#28
I have no power to do that. What I do have the power to do is come to a website that
Squinch
Dec 2017
#32
You are not getting it. This is a site for people who support the Democratic Party and who
Squinch
Dec 2017
#36
LOL. Is this the new talking point tactic? Once again: This is a site for those who support the
Squinch
Dec 2017
#47
You really do seem to have some trouble understanding. The TOS seems very hard for you.
Squinch
Dec 2017
#51
Saying "you're closed minded if you only vote for Democrats" is not supporting Democrats at
Squinch
Dec 2017
#60
Wow. For the record, I only alerted on one of your posts to me. You've really annoyed some folks.
Squinch
Dec 2017
#73
I just saw that! I went to check on the progress of my one alert on his replies to me and found
Squinch
Dec 2017
#75
The green party is about money for their so-called leaders; not the environment.
democratisphere
Dec 2017
#26
Yes, she's in picture at a party in Russia seated with Putin and Flynn. n/t.
whathehell
Dec 2017
#68
She was supposedly going to use the leftover money to create a voter integrity organization
oberliner
Dec 2017
#168
If one person in Newport News voted for a 3rd party instead of the Dem...
scheming daemons
Dec 2017
#187
I have the idea some here are more receptive to ex-GOP voters than ex-Green voters.
David__77
Dec 2017
#106
He was not a Republican though... And the other candidate in the primary voted to restrict
Demsrule86
Dec 2017
#113
I never vote Green, even though I am often ideologically alligned with them
Tom Rinaldo
Dec 2017
#122
Yes! And anyone objecting to your message is not here as an ally. The Greens are an oppositional...
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2017
#180
I agree. Greens and anyone that subscribe to their philosophy are our rivals.
Blue_true
Dec 2017
#197