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Voting Green presidentially is a wasted vote: threads calling people out for it are wasted bandwith. [View all] Ken Burch Dec 2017 OP

Are you under the impression that you'll get people to do ANYTHING by posting threads here? brooklynite Dec 2017 #1

I disagree. There are many lurkers reading what we write. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #35

Poor widdle tings... Trump and Stein voters might get thewr feewings hurwt! Awww! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #93

Democrats should be focused on attracting more voters. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #96

This website is NOT affiliated with the DNC. The discussions and arguments that happen HERE... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #98

This is a public website. Anyone can come and read the posts here. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #102

Whether or not Greens might read posts here isn't super relevant to me. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #109

+1! KPN Dec 2017 #152

This is a discussion board for members of the Democratic Party GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #120

"Love trumps hate?" Sophia4 Dec 2017 #121

Hillary and Jesus are nicer than I. GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #122

Honesty is the best policy. Thanks for being honest. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #124

OMG I totally lost track of time! Is it HUG-A-DEPLORABLE DAY again already? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #2

LOL Demit Dec 2017 #12

... lunamagica Dec 2017 #55

. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #92

Some of those deplorables might vote Democratic if you give them a really Sophia4 Dec 2017 #106

Those deplorables don't come here for hugs and affirmations. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #111

Thank you for this post. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #119

I guess we disagree. I believe that many, many people decide who to vote for Sophia4 Dec 2017 #135

Yeah right. I can hear it now... "I hate that 'Nurse Jackie' poster so I'm not gonna vote!" NurseJackie Dec 2017 #138

People Who Are Capable of Converting. . . ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #172

Every vote counts as we saw in Virginia. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #174

you are correct, thank you for trying but questionseverything Dec 2017 #176

I See Your Point, Sophia ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #183

The Democratic Party was terribly split in the 2016 election. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #185

I'm With Ya! (nt) ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #186

Great! Sophia4 Dec 2017 #188

How about you give it a rest? KPN Dec 2017 #153

Clearly, a nerve has been struck. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #156

I don't know anybody here who voted Green. KPN Dec 2017 #158

That's an argument fallacy... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #161

Boom! ehrnst Dec 2017 #175

Yes, we are judged by what we write. lapucelle Dec 2017 #126

Boom! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #136

True KPN Dec 2017 #155

Time does fly! brer cat Dec 2017 #162

I keep forgetting: Halloween, Thanksgiving, Hug-a-Deplorable, THEN Christmas... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #164

"threads calling people out for it are wasted bandwith" --- Does this mean... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #3

Threads calling out Democrats for calling out Steiners are a waste of bandwidth. lapucelle Dec 2017 #127

LOL!! ehrnst Dec 2017 #150

Next, perhaps you can remind us again how Sanders helped us in 2016. Orrex Dec 2017 #4

He didn't hurt us. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #15

I'm sure that you believe all of that. Orrex Dec 2017 #22

Before he declared, HRC was winning 49% in the polls. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #25

Before Sanders declared, how was Trump running in the polls? Orrex Dec 2017 #148

It's true. Google it. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #36

Mahalo Orrex.. Cha Dec 2017 #141

That is your opinion. Much good any of that did when we lost in the end. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #61

We'd have had the same result if he hadn't run. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #80

Well said. nt Doremus Dec 2017 #108

We will have to agree to disagree. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #125

### NurseJackie Dec 2017 #17

What about threads calling out threads calling out the Greens? Is that doubly wasted bandwidth? DanTex Dec 2017 #5

it's exponential growth but it's important to remind people it's grantcart Dec 2017 #7

Boom! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #13

Threads about Threads Squared! FSogol Dec 2017 #14

Meta-threading. N/T lapucelle Dec 2017 #128

No. It's about the fact that there are still innumerable threads about people voting Stein Ken Burch Dec 2017 #18

What would we do without people to tell us what we ought and ought-not be discussing? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #104

Why would anyone want to protect and defend the likes of Susan Sarandon? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #9

Consider all posts to be campaign canvassing calls. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #41

I like to consider my posts to be Little Debbie's Cakes. Or pulled pork sandwiches. Squinch Dec 2017 #178

It's OK. I just use the extra bits put em in my fruitcake 😈 Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #6

And the notion that The Green Party is a Republican Party/Russian scam is pure lunacy. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #8

Who's saying that? I've never heard anyone make that claim. However... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #11

The OP in a thread in which you commented. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #19

LOL! One person. Not plural. This is not the epidemic you imagine. :-D NurseJackie Dec 2017 #23

Multiple people in multiple threads, but I never suggested it was an epidemic. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #33

Uh-huh. Su-u-u-ure. Ri-i-i-ight. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #47

LOL. I guess that's really the only way you could respond. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #49

There's no epidemic. And it IS a GOP-funded scam. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #51

I didn't say there was an epidemic. And the funding issue isn't too substantial. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #65

See other post. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #69

Yes, it's about being rational. KPN Dec 2017 #160

Democrats need to defend the environment much more strongly. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #43

Are you saying that you prefer the Green party? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #48

I'm saying that we need to be stronger in our defense of the environment Sophia4 Dec 2017 #63

So, does this mean that you support the Green party? Or, does it mean... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #68

Sophia made it clear that she's a Democrat who wants Democrats to do more to defend the environment. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #72

No that's not at all clear. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #78

How is it not clear? Garrett78 Dec 2017 #82

There's more to that post than what you selectively quoted. There are also... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #88

As I said, it's clear that she's a Democrat who wants the party to do more to defend the environment Garrett78 Dec 2017 #94

It's clear to you, but not to me. Feel free to cherry pick and selectively quote only those things NurseJackie Dec 2017 #95

It's verbatim what she said. It couldn't be more clear. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #99

The only thing that's clear is how the smears and insinuations are being ignored. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #100

See my last post, which I just edited. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #103

No. Taken in whole and in consideration of other posts elsewhere in THIS thread... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #105

Democrats need to "pick" candidates with better personalities. lapucelle Dec 2017 #129

It's clear what she's meant. It was a smear of the party... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #130

It's a recurring theme. lapucelle Dec 2017 #131

It means that we need a candidate who is charismatic and has a good Sophia4 Dec 2017 #171

That's evasive and non-responsive. DO YOU or DO YOU NOT support Democrats? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #179

Personality and charisma? Sorry. I'll take the most qualified one, thank you very much lunamagica Dec 2017 #163

Why do people keep taking cheap shots at our party's nominee? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #165

IKR? This should not be allowed here. Also, it's ridiculous to say, or "imply" that she has no lunamagica Dec 2017 #167

McGovern was qualified. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #170

Uh-huh. Right. I see. Too late to backtrack now. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #177

Depends what you mean by "Republican Party scam." DanTex Dec 2017 #24

Nailed it. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #29

No straw men. Actual posts from multiple posters in threads in which you commented. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #40

Most who vote Green simply wouldn't vote. It's wrong to suggest they would vote Dem. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #38

The Democratic Party needs to deal more assertively with environmental issues. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #44

It's important to let people know that the GOP is financing the Green party... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #50

What percentage of The Green Party funding comes from the GOP? Garrett78 Dec 2017 #59

The fact that the GOP does subsidize the Greens should be enough... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #67

They don't subsidize the Green Party at the national level, though. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #71

Doesn't matter. Any support from the GOP gives the Green party more visibility and credibility... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #76

When folks say the Stein/Nader votes would have been enough for the Dem to win a particular state... Garrett78 Dec 2017 #79

My answers and responses remain the same. You're going in circles now... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #90

That might be true if all you did was delete the Greens from the ballot. DanTex Dec 2017 #60

Again, there are nearly 150 Greens in elected office. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #70

Who cares? They are on school boards and town councils. DanTex Dec 2017 #73

All politics are local. And some are mayors or State Representatives, by the way. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #77

No, all politics are not local. This tax bill, for example, is not at all local. DanTex Dec 2017 #81

Well, it's an old adage with a ring of truth to it. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #84

Defending the Green Party might make you feel better, but it won't get any progressive policies. DanTex Dec 2017 #132

It depends on one's goal. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #134

Educating would-be Green voters requires being honest about the Green Party. DanTex Dec 2017 #139

Why not confront that, though, by being as DIFFERENT from the GOP as possible? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #75

So, are you saying that Democrats and Republicans are the same? Or confusingly similar? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #101

I have no use for Stein myself...and it's possible that she does have connections with the Right. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #31

Thanks. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #45

Oh, good lord! Stop it. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #57

The Green Party is GOP friendly...and any offices they hold are at the expense of the Democratic Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #62

They are screwing up the promises made by the NDP here. EllieBC Dec 2017 #166

None of this meshes with the reality of the titular head of the Green Party R B Garr Dec 2017 #173

I was over at JackPineLosers earlier looking at the Jill Stein/Russia/Hand over Docs threads snooper2 Dec 2017 #10

I have no connection to that site, so I'm not responsible for anything they do. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #20

I'll leave it up to Admin JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #16

OK...winning the midterms and THEN beating Trump. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #21

"The "center" doesn't exist anymore." --- Oh brother! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #27

34% of voters identify as moderate, and 36% as conservative. DanTex Dec 2017 #30

That's how they label themselves Ken Burch Dec 2017 #32

You have a better way of labeling people than letting them label themselves? DanTex Dec 2017 #56

I won't disagree that there's a lot of ignorance and contradiction among the public. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #133

You're right that "there's how people label themselves and then there's how they actually vote." DanTex Dec 2017 #137

That's your opinion - not fact JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #117

The federal government just lifted restrictions on creating viruses deadly to humans. Starry Messenger Dec 2017 #26

I agree with you that Trump is a disaster. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #37

Because in the future, if Jill runs again, we are back facing the same issue. Starry Messenger Dec 2017 #53

But we already know that it's impossible to shame people into changing their votes Ken Burch Dec 2017 #147

I will do it here, I will do it on social media, I will do it face to face ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #28

Why do people keep bringing up JPR? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #34

Because you make the same arguments that they make? FSogol Dec 2017 #42

I make my own arguments. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #142

Because its fun to note how much JPR sucksthey even suck at being JPR ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #52

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #83

Uff da! MineralMan Dec 2017 #87

Huh. Missed it. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #97

It wasn't even clever. MineralMan Dec 2017 #118

Yep, yep and yep. If the OP didnt notice them carrying water for Trump last year, he never will. We bettyellen Dec 2017 #39

It's not that it wasn't seen or noticed... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #113

I'm not defending the Greens or Stein. They shouldn't run a presidential candidate. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #143

If you didnt hear about the polices and platform last year, talk to the media. They talked emails. bettyellen Dec 2017 #159

Projecting your unsupported premise along a straight line LanternWaste Dec 2017 #46

Good points, but you're assuming the GPUSA is operating in good faith Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #54

I have no use for the GPUSA leadership. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #146

" it was a horrible choice for any progressive to vote Stein." NCTraveler Dec 2017 #58

Very good points...all. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #66

I don't do propaganda. I've offered suggestions, as LOTS of people here do. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #144

Pure propaganda based completely off of a... NCTraveler Dec 2017 #149

not a wasted vote. The fact that there is a green party that attracts voters and a left wing JCanete Dec 2017 #64

Third parties have always had value ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #74

I'm glad she did that. In my opinion she wasn't tackling wealth disparity in a meaningful way, even JCanete Dec 2017 #85

So, you're saying we shouldn't post about Green voters here? MineralMan Dec 2017 #86

I agree with you. alarimer Dec 2017 #89

It's pretty simple - it's a defense mechanism. KTM Dec 2017 #91

It's in keeping with the What Happened narrative. jalan48 Dec 2017 #107

Ken Burch used Meta 0rganism Dec 2017 #110

People need to vent. 3rd party idiots got us into this mess ecstatic Dec 2017 #112

It's pointless to demand apologies or repentance. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #145

If someone is that dumb, I'll leave it to others to convince them ecstatic Dec 2017 #184

In that case... Ken Burch Dec 2017 #187

No i think these Green Party people should be shamed. PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #114

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #115

Wrong! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #116

+1 lunamagica Dec 2017 #168

I so glad you were able to quote that poster in your reply BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #182

Posted, with a very brief comment: NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #123

Love this. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #140

Or expose the Stein campaign for the sham that it was. ehrnst Dec 2017 #151

Thank God there wasnt a green party candidate on ballot in Newport News scheming daemons Dec 2017 #154

I agree. KPN Dec 2017 #157

Ripeness is all ucrdem Dec 2017 #169

Some people are always going to vote Green or some other third party. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #180

Disagree. You advocate holding a dialogue with our mugger. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #181

Excellent analogy. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #189