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NurseJackie

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90. My answers and responses remain the same. You're going in circles now...

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 04:58 PM

Dec 2017

... so to save time, I can only suggest that you return to the top of this subthread and re-read it all, looping over and over until your heart's content.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

One of the reasons many Greens will give you for why they vote Green is all of the dark money that Democratic candidates receive.

So that's what Greens say, huh? Interesting. Thanks for sharing that.

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Voting Green presidentially is a wasted vote: threads calling people out for it are wasted bandwith. [View all] Ken Burch Dec 2017 OP

Are you under the impression that you'll get people to do ANYTHING by posting threads here? brooklynite Dec 2017 #1

I disagree. There are many lurkers reading what we write. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #35

Poor widdle tings... Trump and Stein voters might get thewr feewings hurwt! Awww! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #93

Democrats should be focused on attracting more voters. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #96

This website is NOT affiliated with the DNC. The discussions and arguments that happen HERE... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #98

This is a public website. Anyone can come and read the posts here. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #102

Whether or not Greens might read posts here isn't super relevant to me. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #109

+1! KPN Dec 2017 #152

This is a discussion board for members of the Democratic Party GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #120

"Love trumps hate?" Sophia4 Dec 2017 #121

Hillary and Jesus are nicer than I. GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #122

Honesty is the best policy. Thanks for being honest. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #124

OMG I totally lost track of time! Is it HUG-A-DEPLORABLE DAY again already? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #2

LOL Demit Dec 2017 #12

... lunamagica Dec 2017 #55

. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #92

Some of those deplorables might vote Democratic if you give them a really Sophia4 Dec 2017 #106

Those deplorables don't come here for hugs and affirmations. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #111

Thank you for this post. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #119

I guess we disagree. I believe that many, many people decide who to vote for Sophia4 Dec 2017 #135

Yeah right. I can hear it now... "I hate that 'Nurse Jackie' poster so I'm not gonna vote!" NurseJackie Dec 2017 #138

People Who Are Capable of Converting. . . ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #172

Every vote counts as we saw in Virginia. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #174

you are correct, thank you for trying but questionseverything Dec 2017 #176

I See Your Point, Sophia ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #183

The Democratic Party was terribly split in the 2016 election. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #185

I'm With Ya! (nt) ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #186

Great! Sophia4 Dec 2017 #188

How about you give it a rest? KPN Dec 2017 #153

Clearly, a nerve has been struck. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #156

I don't know anybody here who voted Green. KPN Dec 2017 #158

That's an argument fallacy... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #161

Boom! ehrnst Dec 2017 #175

Yes, we are judged by what we write. lapucelle Dec 2017 #126

Boom! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #136

True KPN Dec 2017 #155

Time does fly! brer cat Dec 2017 #162

I keep forgetting: Halloween, Thanksgiving, Hug-a-Deplorable, THEN Christmas... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #164

"threads calling people out for it are wasted bandwith" --- Does this mean... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #3

Threads calling out Democrats for calling out Steiners are a waste of bandwidth. lapucelle Dec 2017 #127

LOL!! ehrnst Dec 2017 #150

Next, perhaps you can remind us again how Sanders helped us in 2016. Orrex Dec 2017 #4

He didn't hurt us. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #15

I'm sure that you believe all of that. Orrex Dec 2017 #22

Before he declared, HRC was winning 49% in the polls. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #25

Before Sanders declared, how was Trump running in the polls? Orrex Dec 2017 #148

It's true. Google it. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #36

Mahalo Orrex.. Cha Dec 2017 #141

That is your opinion. Much good any of that did when we lost in the end. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #61

We'd have had the same result if he hadn't run. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #80

Well said. nt Doremus Dec 2017 #108

We will have to agree to disagree. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #125

### NurseJackie Dec 2017 #17

What about threads calling out threads calling out the Greens? Is that doubly wasted bandwidth? DanTex Dec 2017 #5

it's exponential growth but it's important to remind people it's grantcart Dec 2017 #7

Boom! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #13

Threads about Threads Squared! FSogol Dec 2017 #14

Meta-threading. N/T lapucelle Dec 2017 #128

No. It's about the fact that there are still innumerable threads about people voting Stein Ken Burch Dec 2017 #18

What would we do without people to tell us what we ought and ought-not be discussing? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #104

Why would anyone want to protect and defend the likes of Susan Sarandon? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #9

Consider all posts to be campaign canvassing calls. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #41

I like to consider my posts to be Little Debbie's Cakes. Or pulled pork sandwiches. Squinch Dec 2017 #178

It's OK. I just use the extra bits put em in my fruitcake 😈 Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #6

And the notion that The Green Party is a Republican Party/Russian scam is pure lunacy. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #8

Who's saying that? I've never heard anyone make that claim. However... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #11

The OP in a thread in which you commented. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #19

LOL! One person. Not plural. This is not the epidemic you imagine. :-D NurseJackie Dec 2017 #23

Multiple people in multiple threads, but I never suggested it was an epidemic. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #33

Uh-huh. Su-u-u-ure. Ri-i-i-ight. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #47

LOL. I guess that's really the only way you could respond. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #49

There's no epidemic. And it IS a GOP-funded scam. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #51

I didn't say there was an epidemic. And the funding issue isn't too substantial. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #65

See other post. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #69

Yes, it's about being rational. KPN Dec 2017 #160

Democrats need to defend the environment much more strongly. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #43

Are you saying that you prefer the Green party? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #48

I'm saying that we need to be stronger in our defense of the environment Sophia4 Dec 2017 #63

So, does this mean that you support the Green party? Or, does it mean... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #68

Sophia made it clear that she's a Democrat who wants Democrats to do more to defend the environment. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #72

No that's not at all clear. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #78

How is it not clear? Garrett78 Dec 2017 #82

There's more to that post than what you selectively quoted. There are also... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #88

As I said, it's clear that she's a Democrat who wants the party to do more to defend the environment Garrett78 Dec 2017 #94

It's clear to you, but not to me. Feel free to cherry pick and selectively quote only those things NurseJackie Dec 2017 #95

It's verbatim what she said. It couldn't be more clear. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #99

The only thing that's clear is how the smears and insinuations are being ignored. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #100

See my last post, which I just edited. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #103

No. Taken in whole and in consideration of other posts elsewhere in THIS thread... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #105

Democrats need to "pick" candidates with better personalities. lapucelle Dec 2017 #129

It's clear what she's meant. It was a smear of the party... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #130

It's a recurring theme. lapucelle Dec 2017 #131

It means that we need a candidate who is charismatic and has a good Sophia4 Dec 2017 #171

That's evasive and non-responsive. DO YOU or DO YOU NOT support Democrats? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #179

Personality and charisma? Sorry. I'll take the most qualified one, thank you very much lunamagica Dec 2017 #163

Why do people keep taking cheap shots at our party's nominee? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #165

IKR? This should not be allowed here. Also, it's ridiculous to say, or "imply" that she has no lunamagica Dec 2017 #167

McGovern was qualified. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #170

Uh-huh. Right. I see. Too late to backtrack now. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #177

Depends what you mean by "Republican Party scam." DanTex Dec 2017 #24

Nailed it. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #29

No straw men. Actual posts from multiple posters in threads in which you commented. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #40

Most who vote Green simply wouldn't vote. It's wrong to suggest they would vote Dem. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #38

The Democratic Party needs to deal more assertively with environmental issues. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #44

It's important to let people know that the GOP is financing the Green party... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #50

What percentage of The Green Party funding comes from the GOP? Garrett78 Dec 2017 #59

The fact that the GOP does subsidize the Greens should be enough... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #67

They don't subsidize the Green Party at the national level, though. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #71

Doesn't matter. Any support from the GOP gives the Green party more visibility and credibility... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #76

When folks say the Stein/Nader votes would have been enough for the Dem to win a particular state... Garrett78 Dec 2017 #79

My answers and responses remain the same. You're going in circles now... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #90

That might be true if all you did was delete the Greens from the ballot. DanTex Dec 2017 #60

Again, there are nearly 150 Greens in elected office. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #70

Who cares? They are on school boards and town councils. DanTex Dec 2017 #73

All politics are local. And some are mayors or State Representatives, by the way. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #77

No, all politics are not local. This tax bill, for example, is not at all local. DanTex Dec 2017 #81

Well, it's an old adage with a ring of truth to it. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #84

Defending the Green Party might make you feel better, but it won't get any progressive policies. DanTex Dec 2017 #132

It depends on one's goal. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #134

Educating would-be Green voters requires being honest about the Green Party. DanTex Dec 2017 #139

Why not confront that, though, by being as DIFFERENT from the GOP as possible? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #75

So, are you saying that Democrats and Republicans are the same? Or confusingly similar? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #101

I have no use for Stein myself...and it's possible that she does have connections with the Right. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #31

Thanks. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #45

Oh, good lord! Stop it. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #57

The Green Party is GOP friendly...and any offices they hold are at the expense of the Democratic Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #62

They are screwing up the promises made by the NDP here. EllieBC Dec 2017 #166

None of this meshes with the reality of the titular head of the Green Party R B Garr Dec 2017 #173

I was over at JackPineLosers earlier looking at the Jill Stein/Russia/Hand over Docs threads snooper2 Dec 2017 #10

I have no connection to that site, so I'm not responsible for anything they do. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #20

I'll leave it up to Admin JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #16

OK...winning the midterms and THEN beating Trump. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #21

"The "center" doesn't exist anymore." --- Oh brother! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #27

34% of voters identify as moderate, and 36% as conservative. DanTex Dec 2017 #30

That's how they label themselves Ken Burch Dec 2017 #32

You have a better way of labeling people than letting them label themselves? DanTex Dec 2017 #56

I won't disagree that there's a lot of ignorance and contradiction among the public. Garrett78 Dec 2017 #133

You're right that "there's how people label themselves and then there's how they actually vote." DanTex Dec 2017 #137

That's your opinion - not fact JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #117

The federal government just lifted restrictions on creating viruses deadly to humans. Starry Messenger Dec 2017 #26

I agree with you that Trump is a disaster. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #37

Because in the future, if Jill runs again, we are back facing the same issue. Starry Messenger Dec 2017 #53

But we already know that it's impossible to shame people into changing their votes Ken Burch Dec 2017 #147

I will do it here, I will do it on social media, I will do it face to face ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #28

Why do people keep bringing up JPR? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #34

Because you make the same arguments that they make? FSogol Dec 2017 #42

I make my own arguments. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #142

Because its fun to note how much JPR sucksthey even suck at being JPR ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #52

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #83

Uff da! MineralMan Dec 2017 #87

Huh. Missed it. ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #97

It wasn't even clever. MineralMan Dec 2017 #118

Yep, yep and yep. If the OP didnt notice them carrying water for Trump last year, he never will. We bettyellen Dec 2017 #39

It's not that it wasn't seen or noticed... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #113

I'm not defending the Greens or Stein. They shouldn't run a presidential candidate. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #143

If you didnt hear about the polices and platform last year, talk to the media. They talked emails. bettyellen Dec 2017 #159

Projecting your unsupported premise along a straight line LanternWaste Dec 2017 #46

Good points, but you're assuming the GPUSA is operating in good faith Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #54

I have no use for the GPUSA leadership. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #146

" it was a horrible choice for any progressive to vote Stein." NCTraveler Dec 2017 #58

Very good points...all. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #66

I don't do propaganda. I've offered suggestions, as LOTS of people here do. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #144

Pure propaganda based completely off of a... NCTraveler Dec 2017 #149

not a wasted vote. The fact that there is a green party that attracts voters and a left wing JCanete Dec 2017 #64

Third parties have always had value ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #74

I'm glad she did that. In my opinion she wasn't tackling wealth disparity in a meaningful way, even JCanete Dec 2017 #85

So, you're saying we shouldn't post about Green voters here? MineralMan Dec 2017 #86

I agree with you. alarimer Dec 2017 #89

It's pretty simple - it's a defense mechanism. KTM Dec 2017 #91

It's in keeping with the What Happened narrative. jalan48 Dec 2017 #107

Ken Burch used Meta 0rganism Dec 2017 #110

People need to vent. 3rd party idiots got us into this mess ecstatic Dec 2017 #112

It's pointless to demand apologies or repentance. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #145

If someone is that dumb, I'll leave it to others to convince them ecstatic Dec 2017 #184

In that case... Ken Burch Dec 2017 #187

No i think these Green Party people should be shamed. PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #114

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #115

Wrong! NurseJackie Dec 2017 #116

+1 lunamagica Dec 2017 #168

I so glad you were able to quote that poster in your reply BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #182

Posted, with a very brief comment: NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #123

Love this. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #140

Or expose the Stein campaign for the sham that it was. ehrnst Dec 2017 #151

Thank God there wasnt a green party candidate on ballot in Newport News scheming daemons Dec 2017 #154

I agree. KPN Dec 2017 #157

Ripeness is all ucrdem Dec 2017 #169

Some people are always going to vote Green or some other third party. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #180

Disagree. You advocate holding a dialogue with our mugger. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #181

Excellent analogy. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #189