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meanit

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65. The Second Amendment doesn't make it a free for all.

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sun Jul 22, 2012, 04:12 PM

Jul 2012

Certainly the amendment was written with a concern about things being "well regulated" such as with the militias, who would certainly have the greater amount of combined firepower. I don't think the Founding Fathers intended us to be intimidated by people in the community who are stockpiling military grade weapons for no practical purpose.

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Your fear of MY guns is irrational. None have ever harmed a human or been used in a crime. [View all] cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 OP

*Stands, claps, whistles and cheers* SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #1

You have my vote! evilhime Jul 2012 #74

What's that saying about making assumptions? stopbush Jul 2012 #104

It's nothing personal. But your access is the same as Holmes's. Loudly Jul 2012 #2

Outlawing guns is not going to stop criminals from obtaining guns SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #4

That's because VA is a gun worshipping jurisdication, and is right across the river. Loudly Jul 2012 #8

Then prepare to amend the Constitution SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #9

Making guns and ammo less prevalent in society isn't really a Constitutional problem. Loudly Jul 2012 #11

The only way to make firearms scarcer SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #18

The key given in Heller is the class of weapons. Loudly Jul 2012 #22

Fair enough SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #32

When gun owners Plucketeer Jul 2012 #86

The "well regulated militia" section was judged to be an individual right michreject Jul 2012 #109

I'm all for it. Get rid of the Second Amendment. WE don't need it and there is NO OTHER CTyankee Jul 2012 #117

Really? Then how do you explain low gun crime rates in countries that DO restrict guns? n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #126

And this is the crux of the entire matter. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #6

Said like a neo-con fearmonger. Daemonaquila Jul 2012 #47

And your dramatic over-reaction is typical of someone who feels threatened by any reasonable amount Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #71

Then why do I have to remove my shoes when I fly?? dickthegrouch Jul 2012 #75

I don't want this country to become Minority Report obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #58

What level of regulation is acceptable to you? Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #80

In parts of this community, one had better keep his/her weapons well-hidden, else some burglar or indepat Jul 2012 #100

Innocent until proven guilty. Ready4Change Jul 2012 #128

Clara Harris had a drivers license and had never harmed a single person with her Mercedes. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #12

Keep an eye on the prevalence of the problem. Loudly Jul 2012 #14

And cue the rationalizations... cleanhippie Jul 2012 #76

Not to mention silver dollars. nt rrneck Jul 2012 #124

Interestingly enough, more people are killed by drivers than people with guns every year. Oh shi Edweird Jul 2012 #89

Why was your text cut short? Loudly Jul 2012 #93

:) I wasn't shot, I divided by zero. Edweird Jul 2012 #96

Cars kill more people than guns. Zalatix Jul 2012 #113

no one is afraid of your heirlooms Enrique Jul 2012 #3

I doubt they realize it but... Marrah_G Jul 2012 #5

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #38

+1 obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #59

Who said anything about you? Rex Jul 2012 #7

Actually, my fear is very rational. ananda Jul 2012 #10

You're afraid of the OP in particular and you claim you're being rational? (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #51

You just stated you think the OP might shoot you obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #61

My dad sleeps with a handgun by his bed loyalsister Jul 2012 #72

Your fear is deeply rooted in ignorance and irrationality. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #79

My issue is with gun laws and what is available for sale. These laws and what is available need to SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #92

I imagine there were a number of soft drinks being consumed in the theater that night. blue neen Jul 2012 #13

i shouldn't be afraid of a stranger's lethal weapons? unblock Jul 2012 #15

No, you shouldn't. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #34

is this a typo: unblock Jul 2012 #106

Yep. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #122

+100 Myrina Jul 2012 #102

The same processes that allowed you to obtain your firearms also allowed James Holmes to obtain his. baldguy Jul 2012 #16

OP has stated he is in favor of background checks and restrictions on high capacity magazines Kaleva Jul 2012 #26

Which is the reason I rec'd it. freshwest Jul 2012 #35

I rec'd it also. Kaleva Jul 2012 #37

I don't agree with entire OPs when I rec them but if I see something is progressive I do. freshwest Jul 2012 #60

According to what Skinner told the hosts, threads like these will be allowed in GD for awhile yet Kaleva Jul 2012 #68

You're going to point out facts? Facts are going to slow things down. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #41

The Aurora killer passed all background checks Hugabear Jul 2012 #90

That's EXACTLY what you're supposed to do. Daemonaquila Jul 2012 #49

I need a 5MT nuke to guard myself from my neighbors cat. baldguy Jul 2012 #91

Not enough deterrent power. Sorry. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #116

That isn't true. Heller would and (I assume did) pass background checks. TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #50

And, he may be a psychopath and not mentally ill obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #67

I have had NICS and mental health checks obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #66

Truly rational people identify the root causes and deal with them... tortoise1956 Jul 2012 #108

The root cause is TOO MANY FUCKING GUNS! baldguy Jul 2012 #110

Some people enjoy life.. while others are out buying ammo. DontTreadOnMe Jul 2012 #17

I enjoy the HELL out of my life, even on those rare occasions when I'm buying ammo. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #23

You have replied to just about EVERY Gun thread in the last 3 days DontTreadOnMe Jul 2012 #27

You know what else I noticed? Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #33

I agree DontTreadOnMe Jul 2012 #82

Unrec... joeybee12 Jul 2012 #19

OP has stated he is in favor of sane, responsible legislation Kaleva Jul 2012 #29

He/she also thinks that the 2nd Amendment is absolute. ElboRuum Jul 2012 #63

One could say the same here for those who advocate for the banning of all semi-autos Kaleva Jul 2012 #78

Yes, I suppose one could. ElboRuum Jul 2012 #95

I think he started his OP the way he did in response... Kaleva Jul 2012 #107

Fair enough... ElboRuum Jul 2012 #120

He could have left out the first part... Kaleva Jul 2012 #121

I've never driven drunk, but I don't begrudge drunk driving laws alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #20

The proper analogy would be driver's license laws obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #69

Yeah, guns are comparable to soft drinks... YoungDemCA Jul 2012 #21

I think you are on the same page as most here, certainly I don't disagree rufus dog Jul 2012 #24

I have a second reason for wanting more gun control now... Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #25

I agree. They are way to smug. Rex Jul 2012 #28

I am a responsible gun owner. Leave me the fuck alone. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #30

... pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #36

.....I'm thinking "short fuse"....... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #44

Far too many of them around...with guns pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #46

You do realize the typical NRA member thinks you're a sellout? BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #31

S/He stated they hate the NRA, as do I obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #73

Thanks for replying to one part of my post BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #83

Another gun owner here who has no respect for, or membership in, the NRA. Zalatix Jul 2012 #114

Your assumption that regulating gun ownership equates to "irrational fear of YOUR gun" shcrane71 Jul 2012 #39

**James Holmes** was a law abiding citizen, too. DevonRex Jul 2012 #40

One BIG problem: STOLEN guns number more than a hundred thousand ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #42

Yeah, now your entire gun inventory is online for everyone to see kwyjibo Jul 2012 #123

My goodness. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #43

Well said. K&R. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #45

From your cold dead hands..... lunatica Jul 2012 #48

Better question... ElboRuum Jul 2012 #55

They do rush into a defensive aggression don't they? lunatica Jul 2012 #70

My take on it... ElboRuum Jul 2012 #85

CA has a 10-day wait but leads the nation in murders. Tejas Jul 2012 #127

NO right is absolute. ElboRuum Jul 2012 #52

Yet. sadbear Jul 2012 #53

Thanks for the diatribe. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #54

Your fear of MY nuclear weapons is irrational. None have ever harmed a human or been used in a crime drm604 Jul 2012 #56

Not irrational KT2000 Jul 2012 #57

What's irrational... ElboRuum Jul 2012 #64

Ha! Considered a good neighborhood KT2000 Jul 2012 #88

No, my comment was meant as a joke. ElboRuum Jul 2012 #101

You can relax. Most people would agree with you. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #62

The Second Amendment doesn't make it a free for all. meanit Jul 2012 #65

Sorry but bec Jul 2012 #77

What if the sicko walks in with a bomb? GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #105

if you aren't paranoid HankyDub Jul 2012 #81

"a paranoid gun nut who will probably go along with any NRA opposition to these things"? HUH? Zalatix Jul 2012 #118

pretending that the NRA doesn't have great power, first of all HankyDub Jul 2012 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author DrDan Jul 2012 #84

I'm with you 100%. Well said, well stated. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #87

You'd be very wise to support SENSIBLE gun control then. ErikJ Jul 2012 #94

YOUR guns may not be a threat to anyone Historyprof77132 Jul 2012 #97

Until some one breaks into your home and steals them. IdaBriggs Jul 2012 #98

I DONT NEED TO WASH MY HANDS. Only other people's hands carry germs. slampoet Jul 2012 #99

Well, you could have a hundred gallons of hydrochloric acid, too... TreasonousBastard Jul 2012 #103

You COULD drive a car into a schoolyard and kill a bunch of kids. Zalatix Jul 2012 #119

Shaming comments do nothing to promote soccer1 Jul 2012 #111

Attacking men about the size of their genitals should be jury-bait. Zalatix Jul 2012 #112

odd, I see no evidence of irrational fear of you or your guns stupidicus Jul 2012 #115

I'm tired of trashing threads on GD. Can we get all I am a gun owner posts out of the way at once? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #125