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Marengo

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10. A bloc which disintegrated and transformed into open hostility and conflict. Fundamentally, Chinese

Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:59 PM

Dec 2017

Despise and distrust the Russian state. Xi is an empire builder to be sure and pragmatism may lead to a short-term agreement to act in mutual benefit, but the internal contradictions cannot be resolved without Russia making concessions it simply cannot accept.

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If China is smart, they should offer to host a new UN. [View all] bronxiteforever Dec 2017 OP

Does the effing moron think Obama started the UN? Motley13 Dec 2017 #1

These clowns lack critical reasoning skills of secondary consequences. bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #2

China will be a superpower and American won't. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #3

Agree. The Asian Century is here. bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #5

I also think we are going to see a Russia-China alliance. The old Sino-Soviet bloc. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #6

And we are helping to build it for them. bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #8

Exactly, America cannot be trusted and is dangerous. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #12

A bloc which disintegrated and transformed into open hostility and conflict. Fundamentally, Chinese Marengo Dec 2017 #10

I agree, but China plays the long game, has patience, and may use Russia to Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #11

Possibly, if the Russians allow themselves to be played. It will be interesting to observe. Marengo Dec 2017 #15

Certainly Putin would get something out of a short term alliance. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #17

They both share the desire to see the US fall. bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #13

I know all of this. China may well enter into an alliance with Russia to achieve its hegemonic... Marengo Dec 2017 #14

Well you make good points, but the Chinese/ us trade war is coming in 2018. bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #16

What would Putin's position be in a China-US trade war? Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #23

Certainly China could align short term with Putin to make gains against the US. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #22

I agree. China is already the regional power I believe and yes wants the US out Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #18

Its been around for a few years. Its official name is SCO. roamer65 Dec 2017 #21

Shanghai is the wealthy and powerful financial center of China. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #24

Money and regional power. roamer65 Dec 2017 #25

Fascinating. China and India represent about 36% of the world's population? Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #28

Definitely will happen! The US is falling behind in so many ways. And the incompetent in the WH RKP5637 Dec 2017 #30

I agree with everything you say. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #32

I had so much hope as a youth, and I was fortunate, there were tremendous opportunities RKP5637 Dec 2017 #35

Yes same here. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #37

I think there is a real possibility of this, although the UN would prefer Japan or Australia. LonePirate Dec 2017 #4

Interesting choices. I think today signals another end of American bronxiteforever Dec 2017 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Dec 2017 #9

That, or move it back to San Francisco where UN was formed Brother Buzz Dec 2017 #19

my money is on Xi Jinping Motley13 Dec 2017 #20

Yes, Xi Jinping is very talented and seems to be likable, unlike our dunce. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #31

Well, they are going to head up a new TransPacific Partnership. Hoyt Dec 2017 #26

There are existing UN offices in Geneva, Nairobi and Vienna. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #27

The GOPedo war on the UN is quite old, actually. Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #29

Pretty much from the day the charter was signed in June of 1945. nt dflprincess Dec 2017 #34

Another Trump scheme? rickford66 Dec 2017 #33

They will wait for Team Trump to piss on the UN and threaten to boot them out NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #36