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Johnny Rico

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65. These are shotguns.

Sun Jul 22, 2012, 06:28 PM

Jul 2012

Kel Tec KSG, holds 14 rounds.

Saiga-12 with a 20 round drum.

I've been toying with getting one of these as a possible replacement for my current home defense weapon, which is also a shotgun; the Mossberg 590. It only holds 8 shots, so either of the other two would be arguably more effective.

100 Round magazine rifles are designed to kill people. Repeatedly.

That's not a criteria for banning a firearm, at least in my book. A bolt-action 1903 Springfield rifle is designed to kill people repeatedly. Would you ban that?

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Handguns, Shotguns, Rifles, okay [View all] Aerows Jul 2012 OP

Compensating for what? TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #1

You were doing OK until the last paragraph ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #2

A shotgun is a necessity Aerows Jul 2012 #4

If you had stated just that, it would have been fine ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #12

It is easier to identify the guns rather than the people that are threats to society. LonePirate Jul 2012 #56

Whoa Aerows Jul 2012 #61

And that is abdication at best ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #67

A shotgun is much more lethal to a person than an AR-15. TheWraith Jul 2012 #34

Depends on the range and the shotgun load ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #40

Indeed it is Aerows Jul 2012 #59

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #6

A lot of people are having a hard time "helping the discussion". Seems the discussion supports rhett o rick Jul 2012 #19

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #27

Wish I could rec SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #58

What?! Aerows Jul 2012 #63

Would you prefer the term "mentally unfit"/ ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #64

Cracker Aerows Jul 2012 #72

That's just your opinion. Do you believe you're the judge of rationality and truth? leveymg Jul 2012 #44

Indeed it is my opinion that the penile compensation canard is not a rational argument ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #49

It's a perfectly rational explanation for irrational behaviors, such as buying semiautomatic weapons leveymg Jul 2012 #74

Exactly why I made this post Aerows Jul 2012 #77

Those huge mags (oft bought from catalog) suck NightWatcher Jul 2012 #3

It seems that to some Aerows Jul 2012 #5

Flamebait sucks and push polls suck. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #7

It's Flamebait Aerows Jul 2012 #9

You are lumping one semi automatic rifle in with high-capacity mags obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #28

DU Rec. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #10

other: "Not necessary but can be quite entertaining at the shooting range." OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #8

See, Enjoying a 100 mag at the shooting range Aerows Jul 2012 #11

Well, that's why shooting ranges exist... OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #14

Under what circumstances are handguns, shotguns, and rifles insufficient. sadbear Jul 2012 #13

I went through Katrina Aerows Jul 2012 #15

What did you use? sadbear Jul 2012 #16

.20 Aerows Jul 2012 #17

So a shotgun was sufficient. sadbear Jul 2012 #21

Probably a shotgun Aerows Jul 2012 #23

A .2 rifle is tiny...what did you intend to say ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #31

Yeah, It was a shotgun Aerows Jul 2012 #39

That's basically a .223, with less grain than the AR-15 obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #32

That's a shotgun obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #30

Yeah, It was a shotgun Aerows Jul 2012 #38

Firearms are tools. You need the right one for the task at hand ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #20

I want to know when rifles, shotguns, and handguns are insufficient. sadbear Jul 2012 #22

See, this is the same thing I ask Aerows Jul 2012 #26

The .20 rifle was bolt action? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #35

Civilians can't buy automatics, and rifles and handguns usually are semis obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #33

The gun the Aurora shooter used was legal sadbear Jul 2012 #36

Why is there a need required? ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #45

I, for one, don't buy tools I don't need. sadbear Jul 2012 #48

I don't have one either, but that does not mean a need has to be demonstrated ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #51

That analogy doesn't work at all. sadbear Jul 2012 #53

Its a valid analogy about "need" There are others but I like to use the TB disc one since ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #57

Without media? sadbear Jul 2012 #66

Semi auto is a subset of rifles/pistols/shotguns. ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #41

I will say this Aerows Jul 2012 #52

They are compsensating for their feeligns of powerlessness. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #18

I'm rather thrilled Aerows Jul 2012 #24

Have you seen the zombie ammunition from Hornaday? ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #43

ZOMBIE AMMUNITION Aerows Jul 2012 #47

It is quite funny...at least to some of us ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #54

An AR 15 is just a semi automatic rifle obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #25

Oh, I think more than one of us Aerows Jul 2012 #29

But that has nothing to do with the specific gun but the mag obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #37

Do you realize that a handgun, shotgun, and rifle is *exactly* what the theater shooter used? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #42

The shotgun Aerows Jul 2012 #46

Because you want to fire 100 times without reloading. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #50

Shotguns Aerows Jul 2012 #55

Shotguns are also used extensively in combat since WWI ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #62

I guess we are going to debate Aerows Jul 2012 #68

Cho killed 33 at Virginia Tech using *reduced* capacity magazines that only held 10 rounds each. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #69

These are shotguns. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #65

I wouldn't ban the third one Aerows Jul 2012 #70

Why ban the others? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #71

Hey! Don't psychopaths have rights anymore? flamingdem Jul 2012 #60

in the face of horrific tragedy -- we get a thread like this. xchrom Jul 2012 #73

I am a lesbian Aerows Jul 2012 #75

George Bush wanted to rule the world too. Tejas Jul 2012 #76