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Ken Burch

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16. There's no way to bar him from doing so without looking like we're a party of bullies.

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:28 PM

Dec 2017

The best way to prevent Bernie from running again is to add as much of his economic and campaign financing agenda to ours as possible.

He ran last time because there was a large popular demand for what he stood for and nobody else was going to speak to it. The fact that he didn't develop an adequate approach to winning the votes of people of color is actually a sign that he DIDN'T want to run.

Bernie is not the problem and trying to make this party a Bernista-free zone is not going to help us win in '18 OR '20.

Bernistas and non-Bernistas(I'm not talking about 'bros here-they're a lost cause and may never have even been Sanders supporters at all) will have to work together. That can be achieved without anyone in this party being de-centered or betrayed.

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Top 15 Dem Candidates for 2020 According to the WaPo [View all] ClarendonDem Dec 2017 OP

Weird list NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #1

I can't imagine Sanders won't be allowed to run. I hope he doesn't win but I fully expect StevieM Dec 2017 #10

Oh, Bernie will run alright... and win!! Then he'll mop the floor with the Traitor-in-Chief!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #107

The voters will have to decide who the nominee is. My guess is that at least 20 people will run. StevieM Dec 2017 #108

There's no way to bar him from doing so without looking like we're a party of bullies. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #16

How is it a "party of bullies" NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #19

His agenda is largely stuff we should be supporting anyway. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #20

The Democratic Party added some of "his" ideas NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #21

It's not about calling them HIS ideas...that wasn't my point at all Ken Burch Dec 2017 #23

Sanders campaign and followers were too easily manipulated by foreign power. delisen Dec 2017 #56

+++ heaven05 Dec 2017 #58

Bernie's campaign was never manipulated by foreign power. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #68

I think the FBI dominated the race from beginning to end. StevieM Dec 2017 #84

It likely was the FBI, in many ways. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #91

They were NOT his ideas. They've been liberal Democratic Hortensis Dec 2017 #98

True, he is not a Democrat. I respect him for his contributions Alice11111 Dec 2017 #52

I'm really tired of the implied blackmail NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #59

It was never reasonable to act as if HRC was owed an uncontested nomination. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #69

What are you talking about? Nobody is doing that. Nobody is saying that. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #71

+1,000 NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #75

I think Hillary adopted Bernies positions, but thr Repubs creamed Alice11111 Dec 2017 #78

The Right WAS AND IS euphoric on Hillary Hate. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #88

Well stated. I very much agree. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #111

He is not a Democrat and I hope he does not run or we could have the same sort of thing as Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #50

I don't want him to run again either. You know that. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #90

Nobody is doing that. Nobody is saying that. NurseJackie Dec 2017 #95

Do you want him to run as an independent? IMnotU Dec 2017 #82

I don't want him to run at all NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #96

We would all be better off if we had open primaries IMnotU Dec 2017 #97

In my local county election, a Republlican ran unopposed for executive, lapucelle Dec 2017 #102

... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #103

1-4 will not be the nominee! Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #2

Ridiculous list. Did all the real journalists at the Post take the Holidays off? FSogol Dec 2017 #3

!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #60

Who is missing? Renew Deal Dec 2017 #63

Jason Kandor n/t Jane Austin Dec 2017 #101

Apparently. It s really insulting to Democrats. delisen Dec 2017 #70

This list is a complete joke Gothmog Dec 2017 #4

God, how depressing. None of these candidates are inspiring. smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #5

I'd keep my eye on Joe Kennedy III (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Dec 2017 #8

So am I. He's really one of the only people who has inspired me yet. smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #11

I've said the same for several months. xmas74 Dec 2017 #25

Yes. Kennedy and Booker. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #31

the problem is that they are both east coast, maybe. Brown Alice11111 Dec 2017 #33

he is anti-cannabis patient, pro drug war. No thanks rollin74 Dec 2017 #80

I am hoping for Tom Steyer. (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #9

I bet that list changes.. it has Cha Dec 2017 #43

I like Eric Swalwell, but he's a little green & not old enough, but give him a few more years. CrispyQ Dec 2017 #77

No, this is NOT "according to the WaPo" brooklynite Dec 2017 #6

None of the top 4 IluvPitties Dec 2017 #7

Too old. He has never made it through a primary. We love Alice11111 Dec 2017 #34

Joe vs. Trump treestar Dec 2017 #53

I like Joe, but we need someone else. Joe has never even Alice11111 Dec 2017 #57

M$M is deserate for Sanders to run again. Falling all over themselves desperate. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #12

Not Only the MSM peggysue2 Dec 2017 #13

agreed BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #14

What about Cuomo? I like him. IluvPitties Dec 2017 #15

Chris would actually make our best candidate!!! I don't know what, if any, are his negatives other FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2017 #73

2020? we'll be lucky to still be a democracy by then 0rganism Dec 2017 #17

Not as far fetched as it sounds. We never expected that Alice11111 Dec 2017 #47

I agree in part with what you are saying. But I would also be pretty scared for our democracy if we StevieM Dec 2017 #87

I get depressed everytime I hear this stuff. I suppose it is better than apathetic. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #112

Agree mountain grammy Dec 2017 #94

I'd be good with a ticket ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #18

Booker, yes. G, hell no. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #29

I think Gillibrand has a lot more support than her detractors on this website claim ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #37

If Hillary couldn't win why would think she could?? Asking Thekaspervote Dec 2017 #39

I would argue that Gillibrand ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #40

If we are talking baggage, wrong candidate! We must WIN! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #48

I don't think many Dems wants to see HRC run again ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #74

Agree. TINA. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #79

My argument is that we have the best chance of winning with a good female candidate. Blue_true Dec 2017 #93

Julian Castro? lpbk2713 Dec 2017 #22

He's my first choice bearsfootball516 Dec 2017 #28

Good pick too. Booker, Kennedy, Castro among the tops. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #49

Me too!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #113

Looking forward to Bernie running again Kentonio Dec 2017 #24

As far as I am concerned we already have THE ONE Botany Dec 2017 #26

Cool shenmue Dec 2017 #27

He has been a good Dem warrior. I respect him, but can he win? Alice11111 Dec 2017 #30

I like him very much! I could see him filling the VP slot... groomed and prepared for... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #42

I vote for a Warren/Sanders ticket. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #32

no to either northoftheborder Dec 2017 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author northoftheborder Dec 2017 #36

Wouldn't be my first choice ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #45

Sanders NO!! He did not do near enough to support our candidate in 2016 Thekaspervote Dec 2017 #38

Bernie Sanders broke his promise to become a Democrat. Renew Deal Dec 2017 #66

Put me down as a ROCK SOLID ABSOLUTE NO for the person in the #1 slot!!!!!!!! God no. And... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #41

I wouldgo for Booker or Winfrey. If it takes a celebrity to Alice11111 Dec 2017 #51

Bull crap! "The Rock" and Oprah Winfrey? left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #44

I thought those two were definitely out of left field ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #46

Oprah will not run and couldnt win. Renew Deal Dec 2017 #65

I thought "The Rock" was a Republican MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #89

And at one point, I'd thought he was Canadian. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #92

really heaven05 Dec 2017 #54

Have we forsken gibraltar72 Dec 2017 #55

Yes! Years ago. Turncoat. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #61

He became an Independent some time ago MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #106

I dont think Warren wants to be president Renew Deal Dec 2017 #62

The writer of this... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #64

Sanders/Warren video: I think this looks like a real serious ticket floppyboo Dec 2017 #67

I predict the nominee is not on this list stevenleser Dec 2017 #72

I am looking for Tom Steyer to be that dark horse. (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #85

Elizabeth Warren's voice grates on me, & while Gillibrand's voice isn't grating, CrispyQ Dec 2017 #76

WTF? Squinch Dec 2017 #109

I like nice voices. CrispyQ Dec 2017 #115

East and West MadCrow Dec 2017 #81

That's OK. In 2002 and 2003, the first on a similar list was Joe Lieberman.. (nt) question everything Dec 2017 #83

Kamala Harris Casprings Dec 2017 #86

Brian Schweitzer, Kamala Harris IMnotU Dec 2017 #99

Doubt either is the nominee ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #100

No! Kamela.Harris She was one of the lemmings who threw Alice11111 Dec 2017 #114

Bernie is the only one on the list who can win the GE Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #104

Democratic party members only thanks... stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #105

Dumbass list. The Rock and Oprah in the top 10? Who wrote this joke? Squinch Dec 2017 #110