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Sun Dec 24, 2017, 03:21 PM

Dec 2017

It has been pointed out to me that the phrase Al Franken was supposed to go to have said was done in 2006 before he became a senator. My mistake, but it does not change my opinion that Al Franken never uttered these words. My response is:
I will take this person seriously when it is proven to me that this particular accuser even exists. How can one be so sure that the three accusers who have made their names public and are known Trump supporters and Republicans are telling the truth? You got one photo with hover hands which is pretty much on a par with tweeden grabbing the ass of the musician on stage. I believe the anonymous accusers are there only to lend credibility to the others accusations. Besides that, aren't Progressive Democratic women supposed to have more courage and integrity than their Republican counterparts? Who are they?

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" It's my right as an entertainer." [View all] quickesst Dec 2017 OP

That caught my eye also NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #1

Franken is a better Senator and a better person than Gillibrand. kiri Dec 2017 #159

That's a bit harsh. Sen Gillibrand has her own strengths and Ninsianna Dec 2017 #199

Franken himself stated he never said it and never would. Bluepinky Dec 2017 #2

Like I said.... quickesst Dec 2017 #29

I've wondered the same thing Phoenix61 Dec 2017 #3

The more I play the scene in my head... quickesst Dec 2017 #24

The phrase that stuck with me, the first one he uttered, was: Vinca Dec 2017 #4

I probably would have said something... quickesst Dec 2017 #37

You're right jl_theprofessor Dec 2017 #74

A republican ratfuck. Turbineguy Dec 2017 #5

I still want to know the REAL reason/reasons so many dems called for him to resign. pangaia Dec 2017 #6

The REAL reason is RandomAccess Dec 2017 #7

Yes I think you're right. All they could think about was the Moore moment and trying flamingdem Dec 2017 #9

The female gender is not devoid Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #35

Yep green917 Dec 2017 #86

But they're saying the same thing about Moore; 7962 Dec 2017 #68

That makes sense....Thank you. So-- my next question then would be.. pangaia Dec 2017 #11

a lot of pols don't think. They follow the money and certain MSM opinion sources yurbud Dec 2017 #14

So the answer is.. the obvious one... pangaia Dec 2017 #16

more than Republicans but the exact number is in the double digits at most yurbud Dec 2017 #193

A person cannot be deemed credible quickesst Dec 2017 #23

True that.... pangaia Dec 2017 #52

I wish I knew. The one thing I can add -- not as an explanation, but RandomAccess Dec 2017 #117

I missed probably all of the media coverage.. pangaia Dec 2017 #146

they take the MSM WAY too fucking seriously, partly because they grew up in an era when it yurbud Dec 2017 #13

I am just too freakin' naive... pangaia Dec 2017 #19

How we think politics get done and how it actually does are universes apart. yurbud Dec 2017 #145

You know, I actually 'know' all that, and still... pangaia Dec 2017 #148

I agree with Howard Zinn who said with the Democrats we have a tiny ledge to stand on yurbud Dec 2017 #192

Expertly this! green917 Dec 2017 #87

The unabashed truth LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #26

IMNSHO - there has been real talk of AF running as the Democratic nominee for President in 2020. Hestia Dec 2017 #189

Here is my take on that point quickesst Dec 2017 #18

Then, we need more Horatio Hornblowers. pangaia Dec 2017 #20

It upset me Alliepoo Dec 2017 #39

I suppose we can hope.... quickesst Dec 2017 #47

One would think 'they' learned this ages ago. pangaia Dec 2017 #94

Unfortunately... quickesst Dec 2017 #108

It is ALL going to get even uglier because that is who and what republicans are. pangaia Dec 2017 #54

Even worse, many Dems quit. As one person Alice11111 Dec 2017 #64

because he's a strong progressive green917 Dec 2017 #84

I am so naive I never would have believed that. pangaia Dec 2017 #97

Lots of so called progressives had their eye on his seat for one of the Revolution bettyellen Dec 2017 #113

Is this humor? delisen Dec 2017 #178

Some progressives were eyeing his Senate seat. Same people who didnt help in Alabama... bettyellen Dec 2017 #112

Selfrighteousness, Grandstanding , aren't we so Pure ......... JI7 Dec 2017 #153

Me?? pangaia Dec 2017 #155

no, the reason why democrats called for him to resign JI7 Dec 2017 #156

Oopps, sorry. pangaia Dec 2017 #158

You have a good point RandomAccess Dec 2017 #8

+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #17

A talented writer saying a line that would sound more natural coming from... yurbud Dec 2017 #10

I cannot imagine him even... 3catwoman3 Dec 2017 #12

That sounds like something tRump would say and probably has. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #15

I thought that line was written by greymattermom Dec 2017 #22

"When you're a celebrity, they let you do it." subterranean Dec 2017 #44

That was the point of the qoute - to sound like something trumpft said Merlot Dec 2017 #182

he asked for and was denied KT2000 Dec 2017 #21

I's like to believe there was some sort of conspiracy forcing the Dems to stab and twist the knife RVN VET71 Dec 2017 #28

I'm afraid you are right KT2000 Dec 2017 #56

Did you notice MacKasey Dec 2017 #25

I'm pretty sure they had a few... quickesst Dec 2017 #27

The ones they had were lame and getting lamer treestar Dec 2017 #169

There is another question.... quickesst Dec 2017 #173

And I read at least some of the dems telling him to quit pangaia Dec 2017 #99

Those words are sheer projection pandr32 Dec 2017 #30

This was what did it for me too. Rocky888 Dec 2017 #31

He needs to go to NY, like Hillary, and run for the Senate. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #61

I live in NY and I would work for him in a New York minute. pangaia Dec 2017 #101

!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #185

What really grates me is knowing that LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #32

I would have loved for that anonymous accuser to REALLY come forward Demit Dec 2017 #33

there's no doubt .... WomanWhoRoars Dec 2017 #34

I sure hope so. Susan Calvin Dec 2017 #170

K & R! Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #36

"Left is Best" JDC Dec 2017 #38

"It's their tell" quickesst Dec 2017 #40

Like "Bernie Bernstein of WaPo" Danascot Dec 2017 #138

Heh heh... quickesst Dec 2017 #141

It was an hysterical rush to judgment. jalan48 Dec 2017 #41

!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #46

This accuser has a right wing radio talk show. Yeah. No agenda there. Lint Head Dec 2017 #42

It makes me weep that the Senate threw out our best Alice11111 Dec 2017 #45

The search for a spine... quickesst Dec 2017 #98

I agree. Thanks for your post! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #43

Thanks quickesst Dec 2017 #51

Yeah, but there needs to an effort to restore trust & credibility. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #55

Definitely. tavernier Dec 2017 #100

"Democratic Party" and " brilliant strategy" don't go together. CrispyQ Dec 2017 #175

Sadly, I agree. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #187

Great analogy!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #186

I don't understand how you can be so certain mythology Dec 2017 #48

I'll give you your due... quickesst Dec 2017 #58

If you're going to object to being called on your timing error.... moriah Dec 2017 #197

Is it look a little closer quickesst Dec 2017 #201

You weren't going to acknowledge the error to that poster and said so... moriah Dec 2017 #203

Really? quickesst Dec 2017 #205

I certainly hope not... moriah Dec 2017 #206

Ok quickesst Dec 2017 #210

If it doesnt make sense, it usually is not true. Judge Judy spooky3 Dec 2017 #49

I know. I do not post a lot either., but this nonsense makes me sick. Tipperary Dec 2017 #50

IMO, the problem was all about Gillibrand trying to decide if she should run for her current seat or CK_John Dec 2017 #53

Email him or write a letter. I did & I know not much can be done but I also wrote my 2 senators lunasun Dec 2017 #57

Good for you quickesst Dec 2017 #63

KnR Hekate Dec 2017 #59

The accusation is bull**** GaryCnf Dec 2017 #60

Here, here Butterflylady Dec 2017 #62

Lets review the facts: this reading is entirely wrong Casprings Dec 2017 #65

No, puhleeze give US a break. Take a breather, come up for air. Due process. Facing one's accusers.. marble falls Dec 2017 #71

So the argument is, its not true.. Casprings Dec 2017 #78

The argument is that those things you claim to believe in YOU want to throw out the window.... marble falls Dec 2017 #81

I certainly will Casprings Dec 2017 #90

But you do know Al Franken, right? You do know at least the unnamed accusers, right? Shame on you... marble falls Dec 2017 #111

Ok quickesst Dec 2017 #80

Holy fu... Casprings Dec 2017 #83

All bow to the Almighty "fu" quickesst Dec 2017 #91

Roy Moore should be in Jail Casprings Dec 2017 #93

Uh-huh quickesst Dec 2017 #105

If you dont beleive the Politico story Casprings Dec 2017 #107

I don't take as fact... quickesst Dec 2017 #114

And I would still not beleive Moore should be there Casprings Dec 2017 #120

Don't know what you're talking about quickesst Dec 2017 #129

There, their, they're. Calm yourself. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #126

If you get an email from a Nigerian prince BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #127

Nonsense. mn9driver Dec 2017 #85

You are screaming the woman is lying.. Casprings Dec 2017 #88

Screaming? Not me. mn9driver Dec 2017 #89

Roy Moore said she was lying Casprings Dec 2017 #92

Roy Moore said they were all lying. mn9driver Dec 2017 #96

One.. Casprings Dec 2017 #102

Its your own link. mn9driver Dec 2017 #118

It still does not mean this is true Casprings Dec 2017 #119

None so blind as the willfully blind. Give it a rest, will you? marble falls Dec 2017 #124

How Weakly Convenient! ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #109

I mean if this thread shows anything, it shows that there Casprings Dec 2017 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Dec 2017 #116

Ibid! ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #135

We don't know Politico's vetting standards. Ghost Owl Dec 2017 #143

Why would being a Democratic staffer a good reason for staying anonymous? Demit Dec 2017 #147

Oh yeah... this thread clearly shows the support she would get . NT Casprings Dec 2017 #150

"I might get skeptical comments on a message board! I fear for my life!" Demit Dec 2017 #162

If you dont think physical harm and threats would be a real possiablity, Casprings Dec 2017 #163

Still not a justification for taking Anonymous accusations so seriously uponit7771 Dec 2017 #180

Franken would have embarrassed Trump in '20. IluvPitties Dec 2017 #66

Bingo quickesst Dec 2017 #70

Al would have been Trump's worst nightmare IluvPitties Dec 2017 #72

He would have made.... quickesst Dec 2017 #76

2 all thread participants quickesst Dec 2017 #67

You are literally blaming the women NT Casprings Dec 2017 #77

And you... quickesst Dec 2017 #82

I blame the woman who started the ball rolling... desi Dec 2017 #95

And if that was the end of it, I would have huge questions also Casprings Dec 2017 #103

OK desi Dec 2017 #106

I think she is lying idahoblue Dec 2017 #69

I think you're right quickesst Dec 2017 #73

i agree... samnsara Dec 2017 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author CK_John Dec 2017 #79

Me too!!! blue cat Dec 2017 #104

I'm with you! RoBear Dec 2017 #115

It reminds me of the B-movie.... quickesst Dec 2017 #137

Since day one, never passed the smell test cp Dec 2017 #121

Thanks quickesst Dec 2017 #130

I'm very angry about what happened... mudstump Dec 2017 #122

I know... quickesst Dec 2017 #131

+1000, that is the stupid person's paraphrase of "when you're a star, they let R B Garr Dec 2017 #123

If a dumb person said that... quickesst Dec 2017 #132

Though I was sure Franken was being set up, PatSeg Dec 2017 #125

Creative thinking.... quickesst Dec 2017 #133

What convinced me wryter2000 Dec 2017 #128

Maybe it was the challenge... quickesst Dec 2017 #134

Riiiiight wryter2000 Dec 2017 #204

I agree catrose Dec 2017 #136

I don't believe... quickesst Dec 2017 #139

Thank you so much, quickesst! catrose Dec 2017 #144

Your welcome.... quickesst Dec 2017 #151

yeah, there's that condition... catrose Dec 2017 #154

He would never say that riverwalker Dec 2017 #140

Yeah.... quickesst Dec 2017 #142

You are right. I followed him for DECADES. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #149

I think he had the republicons scared shittless... quickesst Dec 2017 #152

this thread is getting too long for me to read tonight orleans Dec 2017 #157

Hell... quickesst Dec 2017 #160

agree! n/t orleans Dec 2017 #191

Bingo. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #165

I'll believe this whole metoo movement is real and not yet another tool of the Patriarchy, when... Hugin Dec 2017 #161

Bill OReilly and Roger Ailes NT Casprings Dec 2017 #164

They had enabling bosses and if anything, what is occurring now is retribution for their ousters. nt Hugin Dec 2017 #167

Its the same reporting team from the NYTs Casprings Dec 2017 #168

I get what you're saying quickesst Dec 2017 #171

Amputation is an excellent metaphor. Hugin Dec 2017 #174

Yep quickesst Dec 2017 #179

Character assassination has been a main Modus Operandi of TPTB since at least... Hugin Dec 2017 #184

Have you ever noticed how many Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #166

Yes quickesst Dec 2017 #176

That's the script they've been given. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #195

The dems really fucked this one up. CrispyQ Dec 2017 #172

Agree quickesst Dec 2017 #181

It would be so wrong to say that but I dont believe he said that OU65802 Dec 2017 #177

His response to that accusation quickesst Dec 2017 #183

I believe that they Faux pas Dec 2017 #188

I can't say with certainty... quickesst Dec 2017 #190

"And you women will be thinking, "What can I wear that will please Al Franken?" sl8 Dec 2017 #194

I don't quite know what to say here quickesst Dec 2017 #196

I'm not sure what to make of people who don't understand kcr Dec 2017 #208

I agree the line was idiotic, but he wasn't a Senator then. moriah Dec 2017 #198

Date and status error... quickesst Dec 2017 #202

As much chance he said that as Russia sweeping every Olympic medal Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #200

That, and the anonymous accuser on Huffpo was a member of a feminist choir. kcr Dec 2017 #207

and FUCK the comrades, er, political hit job apologists on DU Skittles Dec 2017 #209

Ok quickesst Dec 2017 #211