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51. True, the problem with her working from a

Mon Dec 25, 2017, 12:27 PM

Dec 2017

Zero-tolerance policy is that when you don't allow for shades of gray, you eventually stop listening when big problems show up.

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Senator Gillibrand showed courage and has fought for women from the day she became a US Senator. [View all] Casprings Dec 2017 OP

Someone's got an agenda. PubliusEnigma Dec 2017 #1

Sad, cause it's a losing cause. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #2

I second that. vsrazdem Dec 2017 #21

She has no focus, she just shoots and the hell with who it hits IMnotU Dec 2017 #32

+1, she sure didnt hold the same views when she took R B Garr Dec 2017 #56

Yep! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #132

THIS! Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #179

Probably left over from her days customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #117

God, is that true? Alice11111 Dec 2017 #133

She came from upstate New York. Blue_true Dec 2017 #175

Thx for.info Alice11111 Dec 2017 #194

Yes, she has altered the sails customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #247

You sure about that? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #176

NBC: "She was also proud of her perfect letter grade from the NRA, ucrdem Dec 2017 #202

Wow, okay. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #203

What you were told was untrue. Blue_true Dec 2017 #213

Not sure what to believe now. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #214

Do your own research. Blue_true Dec 2017 #220

I will. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #224

The fact remains customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #248

Not according to the report I linked to. Here's the link again: ucrdem Dec 2017 #218

She reversed her position on guns BEFORE being appointed to Hillary's seat. Blue_true Dec 2017 #212

Possibly but NBC says otherwise: ucrdem Dec 2017 #217

Support for hunting rifles? Blue_true Dec 2017 #221

The point is that she reversed her position after being appointed to the Senate. ucrdem Dec 2017 #222

She supported hunting rifles before and now. Blue_true Dec 2017 #223

Take it up with MSNBC: ucrdem Dec 2017 #228

Blue dog? No. Never. elehhhhna Dec 2017 #3

I hope she learns from her mistakes and her handling of Franken was hlthe2b Dec 2017 #4

Yup, gonna take a long, long, long time for me to get over that huge mistake a kennedy Dec 2017 #10

Many of us feel this way. cwydro Dec 2017 #143

Agree. spooky3 Dec 2017 #71

I believe she doesn't have what it takes to be president. blue cat Dec 2017 #91

We already have a complete opportunist. We don't need more. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #162

Of course she will take the most heat - she led the charge. Lucky Luciano Dec 2017 #5

Get a canoe paddle for Xmas? rzemanfl Dec 2017 #6

It seems Gillibrand 2020 doesn't give people Christmas off dalton99a Dec 2017 #18

That would be Unamerican. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #19

+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #20

In the past few weeks we have lost two promising presidential candidates for 2020. rogerashton Dec 2017 #7

+1000 Pachamama Dec 2017 #60

Agreed. rogerashton Dec 2017 #83

Got that right.. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #159

What Franken supporters are you talking about? brooklynite Dec 2017 #210

I hope you are right. eom rogerashton Dec 2017 #230

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #8

That's the spirit. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #17

lol grantcart Dec 2017 #47

Hahaha ❤️ Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #66

и счастливое Новый Год Botany Dec 2017 #69

And happy new year to you too left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #73

I am not sure why this post was alerted on. All it says is: "and Happy New Year." (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #74

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #79

I don't disagree with you. And I just realized that they probably alerted on the "Merry Christmas" StevieM Dec 2017 #81

Small correction: he allegedly said that to the Democratic aide to somebody or other Demit Dec 2017 #86

"the woman can't come forward & be named because she is afraid" left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #92

I know? cwydro Dec 2017 #145

Exactly Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #90

Actually, in Russia, the phrase they use is this: DFW Dec 2017 #191

Merry Christmas to you too!! (eom) StevieM Dec 2017 #75

You can fight for women without taking out one of your strongest allies. enough Dec 2017 #9

Of course, having actual evidence on which to question the politician would be nice... brooklynite Dec 2017 #95

Thank you. Needed to be said. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #163

Welcome back tovarishch ornotna Dec 2017 #11

Women have not been granted immunity from making mistakes any more than men have DFW Dec 2017 #12

+1 Lucinda Dec 2017 #185

She started the ball rolling so shes getting the most flack for it... JHB Dec 2017 #13

It is not sexist to question her motivation dansolo Dec 2017 #14

Yes, it would be sexist NOT to treat women the same way men are treated. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #215

"Wrong and sexist to question her motivation"????? oasis Dec 2017 #15

Huh??? RW hit plot avainst Franken, then implemented by G. She plays the sexist Alice11111 Dec 2017 #165

It's Franken, not "Frankin". And no, I'm not a "sexist" because I question someone's motivation. Crunchy Frog Dec 2017 #16

As I said on another of his/her threads, tavernier Dec 2017 #150

whatever............. Demonaut Dec 2017 #22

I don't question her motivation. She froze in the press's headlights and said something reckless. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2017 #23

Schumer is the Democratic Minority Leader.Would not have happened without delisen Dec 2017 #24

Why are you trying to pick a fight? You keep bringing up resolved issues. And then stir... marble falls Dec 2017 #25

Lonely... maybe..? pangaia Dec 2017 #35

And single issued. He/she certainly knows how to be a majority of one. marble falls Dec 2017 #37

1st time i have seen it's post... pangaia Dec 2017 #39

He/She's all over this one...... marble falls Dec 2017 #45

WOW. And I was pretty active in that thread and never noticed... pangaia Dec 2017 #52

It's been busy, busy, busy picking fights, but has not gained much traction at DU re Gillibrand Hekate Dec 2017 #48

Its drawn a lot of attention to itself. marble falls Dec 2017 #54

I agree with you on that one for sure.. pangaia Dec 2017 #94

Russian Christmas isnt until January Loki Liesmith Dec 2017 #88

She managed the Franken situation very poorly IluvPitties Dec 2017 #26

True, the problem with her working from a MurrayDelph Dec 2017 #51

She degraded the #Me Too movement Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #199

Well said. Franken's apology and commitment to better behavior in the future should have sufficed. IluvPitties Dec 2017 #240

Exactly that, and more. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #164

We would not have Mueller or the ACA without Franken SHRED Dec 2017 #27

+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #38

Cool Story, Bro . stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #28

She was also very strong standing up for big tobacco when she was a private attorney as well. jalan48 Dec 2017 #29

She tried, but failed, to work the "system." MoonRiver Dec 2017 #30

We had a long hard fight against Big Tobacco, no thanks to her. In the DEM primary, NCjack Dec 2017 #58

Totally agree. She has been 100% consistent on that front. Blue_true Dec 2017 #31

Yes ---unflinching nt cadmium Dec 2017 #121

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays ! nocalflea Dec 2017 #33

LOLOL!! pangaia Dec 2017 #34

I was a big fan until she opted for mob rule over due process. Vinca Dec 2017 #36

Exactly. IluvPitties Dec 2017 #40

A "rush to judgment" without any semblance of fair hearing. marble falls Dec 2017 #43

re mob rule cadmium Dec 2017 #123

I disagree. Women can be accused, too. If it was Sen. Gillibrand would she want a hearing? Vinca Dec 2017 #138

Very true!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #167

She's forcing HER standards on the rest of the electorate. Merlot Dec 2017 #41

Clinton should have resigned because he used his power on someone without any power Casprings Dec 2017 #46

Aother "should" which is my point. Rule of law, not "should" Merlot Dec 2017 #50

Intern, worked for the President, President got sexual favors Casprings Dec 2017 #53

For which he paid for in a lot of different ways. Including losing his law license for perjury... marble falls Dec 2017 #57

My thoughts are informed Casprings Dec 2017 #62

Wrong. We need to recognize ratfcking when we see it and call it out. That's what' wrong with the Ds Hekate Dec 2017 #65

Adultery wasnt the issue Casprings Dec 2017 #67

Read my post #63 re Presidential Kneepads before you talk consent Hekate Dec 2017 #70

Your thoughts are informed only by your ignorance. And another uninformed opinion of yours.... marble falls Dec 2017 #72

He would have won as an incumbent Casprings Dec 2017 #99

HUH? marble falls Dec 2017 #131

If dems push Clinton out in 98 Gore likely wins as an incumbent. Casprings Dec 2017 #140

That's pure conjecture. You'd impeach a President over lying about a blow job? marble falls Dec 2017 #147

No. Thats not what you Remove him for Casprings Dec 2017 #152

What do you think he should have been impeached over? marble falls Dec 2017 #153

For using a position of power to get sexual favors from someone he has power over Casprings Dec 2017 #154

Something he was never charged with, you're back to conjecture again. marble falls Dec 2017 #157

No he wasnt. Doesnt mean that wasnt what should have happened Casprings Dec 2017 #158

Name one person ever charged with that and ejudicated for it. Show me that law. Get out of your.... marble falls Dec 2017 #160

Impeachment is a political process and its likely it would be a forced resignation Casprings Dec 2017 #161

For which there was no political will for. Clinton left office with a great economy .... marble falls Dec 2017 #166

Because dems protected Clinton Casprings Dec 2017 #172

Bull Shit. Democrats were not holding Congress at this point.... marble falls Dec 2017 #174

Depends the time.. not right when it came out Casprings Dec 2017 #178

Clinton should not have resigned nor have been forced out...sick of the sliming of Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #225

Intern who told her friends she was going to DC "to get her presidential kneepads"... Hekate Dec 2017 #63

Yes , you are correct... it was bullshit. And consider Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #226

It could be remembered as... tonedevil Dec 2017 #84

What is it with you people and blaming the powerless? NT Casprings Dec 2017 #98

Did l misrepresent... tonedevil Dec 2017 #100

The wife of a high school drama teacher who had an Casprings Dec 2017 #103

YOU PEOPLE? Skittles Dec 2017 #134

Yes, you people who stand with Joe Manchin and Newt Gingrich Casprings Dec 2017 #139

LOL Skittles Dec 2017 #181

Newt supported al because it undercuts dem arguments on trump Casprings Dec 2017 #182

bottom line is Franken was booted out over POLITICAL BULLSHIT Skittles Dec 2017 #186

And seven women, including a democratic staffer say different Casprings Dec 2017 #188

Who is this "you people". Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #197

The people that defend the powerful over the powerless.. those people Casprings Dec 2017 #205

You mean the KKK and the GOP. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #234

Two righty women and some anonymous... who should not be counted. We know for a fact that Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #227

Good point. No one since the resignation. breitbart wins again. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #236

That is what it was...they took a safe seat and made it competitive...the GOP slime machine... Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #239

Thank you. cwydro Dec 2017 #146

Um what is this word in your post? cwydro Dec 2017 #148

How old are you anyway? Hekate Dec 2017 #61

If that is so, why did Gillibrand gladly accept endorsements, support and money from lunamagica Dec 2017 #68

"While debates about due process are legitimate, if wrong," sounds like an insult is coming .... marble falls Dec 2017 #42

Exactly how is it sexist... quickesst Dec 2017 #44

She led the charge on Senator Franken in order to position herself for doc03 Dec 2017 #49

Most of the Democratic Base will remember. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #55

A friend's sister in NY has soured on her ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #97

Exactly. IluvPitties Dec 2017 #78

+1000 Alice11111 Dec 2017 #168

Gillibrand may have fought for women, but she sure as hell wouldn't democratisphere Dec 2017 #59

fingers in ears..don't want to hear it. she backstabbed a fellow Democrat without waiting for hearin Rene Dec 2017 #64

Baloney. eom KPN Dec 2017 #76

Eunuchs for Gillibrand Dan Dec 2017 #77

And following the oldest rule in the book: trash your rival so it will elevate yourself question everything Dec 2017 #80

Thats funny. Al Franken did the same thing. mn9driver Dec 2017 #82

You doth protest too much... aikoaiko Dec 2017 #85

We should use the term "Gillibranding" IluvPitties Dec 2017 #87

Great term worth adopting! democratisphere Dec 2017 #89

Very nice dalton99a Dec 2017 #127

I like this! cwydro Dec 2017 #144

She Denied Women who Worked for Al Franken Their Right to be Heard JI7 Dec 2017 #93

... Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #96

Lame to say it is sexist to attack her position on Senator Franken.... ollie10 Dec 2017 #101

Policing your side is what a principled position looks like. Casprings Dec 2017 #105

so Stone is now on our side? ollie10 Dec 2017 #106

The first may have been stone.. Casprings Dec 2017 #107

how many are anonymous? ollie10 Dec 2017 #109

A Roger Stone-backed right-wing "victim" and another triggered... SMC22307 Dec 2017 #114

It's not as simple as you seem to want it to be Ghost Owl Dec 2017 #195

I Won't vote for her in a primary...end of story. She showed a lack of judgement with Franken. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #102

So dont state a completely true fact about Biden because you dont like it? NT Casprings Dec 2017 #104

I am really tired of the attacks on Biden concerning Anita Hill... he is a great guy and was a Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #141

I didnt say I didnt like Biden.. still cant erase history Casprings Dec 2017 #149

1,954 views, 4 recs. I don't think you have won over you audience. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #108

the OP reaffirmed my disgust of Gillibrand...it wasn't a wasted post Demonaut Dec 2017 #111

Umm, those four recs are from compulsive recommenders Brother Buzz Dec 2017 #116

Hey Buzz, Merry Christmas or should I say Happy Holidays to spite Drumpf? n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #120

LOL Skittles Dec 2017 #110

Gillibrand was a superstar and 2020 favorite in my mind Takket Dec 2017 #112

She will never get a Presidential primary vote from me SHRED Dec 2017 #113

And Al Franken stood with her through the fight dflprincess Dec 2017 #115

Defending Senator Gellibrand context-longer post cadmium Dec 2017 #118

+1000000000000000000 Casprings Dec 2017 #119

Who is this person I will never vote for? fallout87 Dec 2017 #122

maybe cadmium Dec 2017 #124

Well said. IluvPitties Dec 2017 #125

I reiterate again: Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2017 #126

"From the day she became a Senator?" shanny Dec 2017 #128

Does make one wonder? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #216

2300 views, 125 replies flotsam Dec 2017 #129

+1000 OnDoutside Dec 2017 #136

Popular does not equal right Casprings Dec 2017 #137

You're proud of having a few hides? I guarantee if you have four more you'll be the most popular... marble falls Dec 2017 #177

You Would Know ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #211

My Money Is On Gillibrand Losing In A Primary SeaDoo77 Dec 2017 #130

I wouldn't bet on her Hav Dec 2017 #135

She is DONE as a presidential nominee. She chose to lead a witch hunt. FOR SHAME! LBM20 Dec 2017 #142

The fact is: if she is the presidential nomination in 2020 we will all line up and vote for her... Joe941 Dec 2017 #151

She wont get that far dansolo Dec 2017 #156

I hope you are right. Joe941 Dec 2017 #170

This event may very well have defined her. Demit Dec 2017 #180

For me... FarPoint Dec 2017 #155

...and so begins the first skirmish of the 2020 campaign. nt Buns_of_Fire Dec 2017 #169

I like Harris.. she was also on the right side of this Casprings Dec 2017 #173

Supporting as in agreeing with, or supporting as in presidential material? Buns_of_Fire Dec 2017 #200

Unrec workinclasszero Dec 2017 #171

We keep getting these Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #183

I posted here for years here Casprings Dec 2017 #184

What, pray tell, was your username? n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #189

So, when did you feel the need Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #192

Couldnt figure out how to get my old account to work once the election hack happened Casprings Dec 2017 #193

So you don't like DU? Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #196

Its a subset that I enjoyed posting on Casprings Dec 2017 #204

BrentWil's last post here before the hack was in May 2015. rzemanfl Dec 2017 #206

You are a hoot. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #233

I'm with Senator Gillibrand all the way. kstewart33 Dec 2017 #187

I'm not. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #190

I should have read yours before posting mine. I agree 100%. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #209

I suspect that she and other Dem Senators know more than we do. kstewart33 Dec 2017 #219

Ahhh. The old "I suspect" gimmick. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #235

But perfectly willing to see Franken resign without knowing all the facts? n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #208

No, I certainly wasn't happy about it. kstewart33 Dec 2017 #231

Going high isn't working so great. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #232

You really need to stop thinking that politicians Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #237

Really. kstewart33 Dec 2017 #238

You're welcome. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #241

Respectfully... kstewart33 Dec 2017 #242

We could do that. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #243

Your understanding of 'The Crucible' is impressive. kstewart33 Dec 2017 #244

I understand the resentment Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #246

He is a Democrat...she came out before any investigation and asked for him to resign...that is it as Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #229

Sounds like a Gillibrand for President stump speech. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #198

You're entitled to defend her but giving credence to RW defamations was a huge mistake. ucrdem Dec 2017 #201

Shady way to attack a Democrat. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #207

Wow! woolldog Dec 2017 #245