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L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
15. The bot storms are obvious. They were trying to drown out specific news reports.
Tue Dec 26, 2017, 08:14 PM
Dec 2017
My OP from:
THREAD regarding: FBI used the Steele dossier to get FISAs



3. (It's worth noting in that previous article that Steele apparently believed that there was a cabal in the FBI *preventing* the dossier from reaching the top, and it also suggests that he contacted @DavidCornDC about its contents. But I'll let reporters sort out those details.)


6. The DOJ lawyers who help prepare the FISA applications take this VERY seriously. Like, even if you had a common-knowledge assertion, like "Country X is a state-sponsor of terrorism," they make you include a cite (preferably two) supporting it. They want every fact airtight.

7. The Steele dossier is "raw intelligence." It contains reporting from third party sources -- meaning it is basically hearsay. So the FBI can't just staple the dossier to a cover sheet that says "GIVE ME A FISA" and be done with it.

8. To use any or all of the dossier, the FBI would have to provide independent verification and corroboration of each fact that would be included in the application. This could mean first-hand witness statements, actual recordings from electronic surveillance, etc.

9. In other words, if the FBI *did* use the contents of the dossier to obtain a FISA, then by definition those contents are true, corroborated, and independently verifiable. Remember that the application is presented to an Article III judge -- a judicial check -- before granted.

10. This does not seem like the road Trump supporters want to be going down...and yet they are. It's so bizarre. And to underscore: To claim that this was a huge conspiracy is ALSO directly implicating members of the judiciary (who could be Republican appointees) without basis.

P.S. In tweet #2 *he* refers to Steele -- I was cutting down this sentence to fit and omitted him as the original referent



Here's my screen capture of the bots attacking McCabe and suppressing the story that he confirms Comey's statements.

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Fuck Putin. roamer65 Dec 2017 #1
+1 orangecrush Dec 2017 #4
...and the orange shitgibbon he rode in on. dchill Dec 2017 #40
I can no longer tell the difference between Republicans and Russians Skittles Dec 2017 #2
Yup, because they are both fascist scum. roamer65 Dec 2017 #3
this would have been unheard off orangecrush Dec 2017 #6
Its due to the Russian flip from communism to fascism. roamer65 Dec 2017 #8
I am familiar orangecrush Dec 2017 #10
Yes. Explains a lot. EOM elfin Dec 2017 #30
Russians speak several languages, including semi-fluent English 0rganism Dec 2017 #19
republicans are led by limbaugh and putin may have been using talk radio for a decade certainot Dec 2017 #45
With the help of Americans - GOPs Iliyah Dec 2017 #5
it's confirmed now orangecrush Dec 2017 #7
and with Trump at the helm iluvtennis Dec 2017 #26
The Fox orangecrush Dec 2017 #27
Ive told this story before, but worth repeating: tavernier Dec 2017 #9
Extraordinary post orangecrush Dec 2017 #11
Added to it. tavernier Dec 2017 #16
Read it and agree completely orangecrush Dec 2017 #18
Thank you for re-telling this 2naSalit Dec 2017 #14
Who is surprised by this? 2naSalit Dec 2017 #12
trump adm hasn't lifted one finger to deter russia spanone Dec 2017 #13
The bot storms are obvious. They were trying to drown out specific news reports. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #15
Thanks! orangecrush Dec 2017 #17
This is a nightmare. XRubicon Dec 2017 #20
covering this story on MSNBC right now! orangecrush Dec 2017 #21
Facebook and Twitter are weapons of mass destruction and should be... LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #22
they need to do something orangecrush Dec 2017 #23
Hitler would approve of this idea, purging free speech. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #24
I don't view targeted PSYOP programs by foreign entities as "free speech". n/t LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #33
Then say that instead your Hitleresque idea of purging democracy of my right to speak. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #38
Uh, how do I say this politely? LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #39
You said Fb and Tw should be shut down. That would silence me too. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #41
I implied that it should be shut down until... LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #42
Uh, how do I say this politely? L. Coyote Dec 2017 #43
Ok. Have a nice evening. n/t LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #44
Even though I'm an active Twitter user..I would support shutting it down until controlled procedures iluvtennis Dec 2017 #29
Yes, we must control the minds of the masses...... parkerMcDavis Dec 2017 #36
Welcome to DU LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #37
+1 Maven Dec 2017 #34
I don't think it will stick... paleotn Dec 2017 #25
Agree orangecrush Dec 2017 #49
Of course they are. Is this news to any of us here? Amaryllis Dec 2017 #28
Some people here get the memo while we are still asleep. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #35
We can counter this by disseminating his military record Orange Free State Dec 2017 #31
And matt819 Dec 2017 #32
Questioning trump duforsure Dec 2017 #46
I think a lot of what I thought was RepubliCON troll activity was really Putin troll activity Farmer-Rick Dec 2017 #47
I think if the real far left had an inkling orangecrush Dec 2017 #50
at this point I dont even blame putin anymore AlexSFCA Dec 2017 #48
We could have predicted that they would go after Mueller. I'm sure the FBI was expecting it. Nitram Dec 2017 #51
the attack from within orangecrush Dec 2017 #52
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