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angrychair

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25. While I agree to a certain point

Wed Dec 27, 2017, 12:10 PM

Dec 2017

As an atheist I see religion as a danger to the stability and future of our nation and world.

If it really was just “peace, love and joy” I wouldn’t mind as much but religions, Christianity here in the US specifically, attempts (and often succeeds) in influencing everything from education and science to our very rights as human beings to make our own healthcare decisions.

These influences are corrosive and are doing long-term damage to every aspect of our society.

Example:
Amish keep to themselves and live their lives without influencing or disrupting society. I question pushing their children into it but that is the only rub I have with it.

US evangelicals and Catholics and other religions in US attempt to control every aspect of our private lives from what I learn in school to what technology we develop to how I spend my retirement even though I didn’t ask them too or agree with any of it but I wasn’t asked or given a choice.

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Real, confident atheists don't think it's offensive to say "Merry Christmas." We think it's adorable [View all] kpete Dec 2017 OP

Rudie nail it malaise Dec 2017 #1

Beautifully put! HAB911 Dec 2017 #2

And we confident Christians think you are adorable! tavernier Dec 2017 #3

Yeah..They tend to get a little cranky around holidays of a religious whathehell Dec 2017 #41

Perhaps you don't notice it because KatyMan Dec 2017 #48

Um, no -- The reason I didn't notice it is because it's not there whathehell Dec 2017 #51

"a little cranky" LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #84

I was talking about the whathehell Dec 2017 #86

Ah LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #98

I guess they'll have to wait until they die and find out. mdbl Dec 2017 #102

Let's just face it, Lucy was right mdbl Dec 2017 #103

Correct. whathehell Dec 2017 #105

It is Christmas, and we were talking Christianity LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #106

We were talking about religion generally, & how Christianity compares whathehell Dec 2017 #107

I was only discussing the topic in Rude's OP. About the percieved war on Christmas. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #111

Unfortunately Christmas decorations delisen Dec 2017 #4

It seems like decorations were down in my neighborhood too Merlot Dec 2017 #22

My neighborhood, too. Mariana Dec 2017 #67

Decorations are way up in our neighborhood this year.... Big_K Dec 2017 #97

Most normal people are glad that someone wishes them well IronLionZion Dec 2017 #5

Tsk. How can we MAGA if you're going to get all respectful and sensitive and positive? Girard442 Dec 2017 #6

Losers are sensitive and respectful and positive, winners don't have time for that nonsense. IronLionZion Dec 2017 #7

eggnog? one of the most vile of man's creations? KG Dec 2017 #8

Sacrilege!! You eggnog heathen! GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #14

Pour enough brandy in it and you'll change your mind. mainer Dec 2017 #23

On the occasions when I made my own eggnog I would use 100 proof bourbon dhol82 Dec 2017 #58

That's what I was going to say. Control-Z Dec 2017 #71

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion man.. . . Name a better nog, go ahead, I dare you. ET Awful Dec 2017 #49

You have to try Stew Leonard's Egg Nog! PJMcK Dec 2017 #104

Atheists and those secure in their religion have no problem expressing good tidings to other faiths. TheBlackAdder Dec 2017 #9

So true. maddiemom Dec 2017 #76

I reply, roody Dec 2017 #10

I made a real effort to say "Happy Holidays" this year in light of Drumpf. rzemanfl Dec 2017 #11

It"s just a silly non-issue made up by Republicans. whathehell Dec 2017 #63

But saying "Happy Holidays" pisses off the distracted deplorables. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #79

That's what they say... Maybe I'm not around many deplorables whathehell Dec 2017 #81

You're in Chicago. I'm in Florida and spend a lot of time at the Y around rzemanfl Dec 2017 #85

Turning white from what? whathehell Dec 2017 #87

My hyperbole. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #88

"...a few dicks will always be dickish." dchill Dec 2017 #12

Confident atheists can also make merry, and may not care what others choose to name a holiday. Orsino Dec 2017 #13

Ironically, this year has been a happy Holiday year for me GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #15

DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2017 #16

After seeing the Trump propaganda Farmer-Rick Dec 2017 #17

Well said! BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #89

The only person mad at work was an older Jewish lady Bradical79 Dec 2017 #18

She sounds unpleasant MosheFeingold Dec 2017 #19

I wasn't very clear Bradical79 Dec 2017 #65

I view it at a platitude. Like 'Good morning'. A meaningless pleasantry AtheistCrusader Dec 2017 #20

Yeah Dipshit Donnie isnt worth being rude to strangers Norbert10 Dec 2017 #21

Um, no..You're thinking of the winter solstice.. whathehell Dec 2017 #54

Saturnalia! The original reason for the Season. haele Dec 2017 #70

Works for me whathehell Dec 2017 #73

Of course it is.. whathehell Dec 2017 #27

Yep, it's "Have a nice day" for the xmas season. Iggo Dec 2017 #34

Gandalf the Grey might have something to say about that... malthaussen Dec 2017 #40

"As much of a liar as you are, there will always be people who believe there was a drought solara Dec 2017 #24

While I agree to a certain point angrychair Dec 2017 #25

"adorable"? whathehell Dec 2017 #26

I find my 3-year-old's belief in Santa to be "adorable" too... ExciteBike66 Dec 2017 #30

LOL. Iggo Dec 2017 #35

I find intolerant atheists to be assholes.. whathehell Dec 2017 #37

Intolerant? ExciteBike66 Dec 2017 #44

Like I said.. whathehell Dec 2017 #47

Lol Piasladic Dec 2017 #53

You got it.. whathehell Dec 2017 #55

Nope Piasladic Dec 2017 #56

It's funny how words acquire brand-new definitions, isn't it? Mariana Dec 2017 #68

What were you saying.... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #90

I was saying. whathehell Dec 2017 #91

Oh, OK. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #100

I'm not surprised you dug deep enough to find something LanternWaste Dec 2017 #62

Aww. whathehell Dec 2017 #64

We celebrate the real season LakeArenal Dec 2017 #28

Reason for the season pokerfan Dec 2017 #83

Not so sure about 'adorable,' but friendly, elleng Dec 2017 #29

Preach it Rude Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #31

How are you today? Good. And you? thbobby Dec 2017 #32

Happy Fuck Trump Day! MontanaMama Dec 2017 #52

Saying "Happy Holidays" to a BillO fan is an inoculation against the chickenshits Major Nikon Dec 2017 #33

I like to greet pro-Christmas warriors dobleremolque Dec 2017 #36

LOL, that would be appropriate for Walmart door greeters. KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2017 #101

The "War on Christmas" appeals to christian Dominionists: think theyre oppressed when not oppressing Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #38

Exactly. maddiemom Dec 2017 #77

Merry Holidays Faux pas Dec 2017 #39

Real atheists roll their eyes, ignore it and move on. DetlefK Dec 2017 #42

As an Agnostic who believes Christ was probably born in October, sandensea Dec 2017 #43

Lifelong atheist here, and I love Christmas. Codeine Dec 2017 #45

Yup. Listened to christmas cd's in the car, great Christmas dinnet lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #95

Theyre all made up holidays . mountain grammy Dec 2017 #46

"I have ended the drought" rock Dec 2017 #50

I have no problem saying Merry Christmas, BarbaRosa Dec 2017 #57

I am a Jew- know what my response is when someone tells me "Merry Christmas?" Still In Wisconsin Dec 2017 #59

Same but my almost 8 year old has a longer reply. EllieBC Dec 2017 #75

I remember back in the 80's they were complaining that people abbreviated it as X-Mas C Moon Dec 2017 #60

'Real, confident' atheists don't mock and insult non-atheists either whathehell Dec 2017 #61

Theism was born when the first scammer bumped into the first gullible dope. demopilot Dec 2017 #72

Like I said.. whathehell Dec 2017 #74

Thanks for the acknowledgement. demopilot Dec 2017 #108

I acknowledge that intolerant atheists whathehell Dec 2017 #109

A literal interpretation is rejected by a 'vast majority'....? demopilot Dec 2017 #114

Um, yeah.. whathehell Dec 2017 #115

I say Merry Christmas near Christmas time Bradical79 Dec 2017 #66

The thing about the "culture war" nobody is telling you: Initech Dec 2017 #69

Let's put the X back in Xmas in 2018! Blue Streak Science Dec 2017 #78

It's much more likely that a Christian will be offended Mariana Dec 2017 #80

Must be only Fox watching Christians..I've never met anyone like that whathehell Dec 2017 #110

There are an awful lot of Fox watching Christians. Mariana Dec 2017 #112

Maybe where you are.. whathehell Dec 2017 #113

"Motherfucker, they're all made-up holidays." trof Dec 2017 #82

In Japan its a gift giving holiday just like here McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #92

Yep! They don't have Christmas as a holiday in the Bible. LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #93

Um, no and the Pilgrims didn't celebrate Fourth of July whathehell Dec 2017 #116

Utterly agree The Mouth Dec 2017 #94

K&R for R.P. Martin Eden Dec 2017 #96

How hard is it to just say Happy Holidays instead? oberliner Dec 2017 #99