Ohio teens charged with murder over sandbag tossed from overpass

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89. Agree. Our systems overall do a lot better, of course,

than the conservatives yammering angrily that murderers are running around the streets imagine. At least they do in those states where a great deal of thought has been given to this, and even some budget allocated to trying to do right. This has to include a humane and, as much as possible, effective raising of children in custody to responsible adulthood.

Still lots of room to advance. We really need further advances in evaluation of mental conditions, and laws have a whole lot of catching up to do to even today's level of knowledge. We didn't begin to understand how different adolescent thinking was until recently, much less have time to rework laws that have developed over hundreds of years and the systems that execute them. I don't remember which state has to deal with the current reality of these boys.

Your grandfather at least had precious little time for running around with bad influences, reminding me that that was at least to some degree the case for most children before the modern era. Work, almost always physical, filled a lot of hours each day while they finished growing up.