Ohio teens charged with murder over sandbag tossed from overpass

[Lee-Lee]

90. For the most part I think you are correct

Some people who do minor things can be turned to the right path.

That young person person who has petty theft and lots of vehicle violations because they just don’t care can be turned around if they are caught young enough and the right measures and intervention taken- if they have a family that cares enough at home.

That person whose crimes are based around some form of substance abuse can be turned around if their underlying substance absuse issues are treated and managed.

But there is a percentage of the criminal class that are what would describe as “feral humans” for a lack of a better term. They don’t care about right or wrong. They don’t care about who or what they harm on the way to get what they want. Mostly male, what they care about is where they are going to get high or drunk, fed, entertained and find sex that day. That’s it. If they have to steal, harm others, destroy things or even murder to make those things happen they will. They don’t care about getting arrested or going to jail they see it as the same kind of inconvenience on their life as most people see paying their taxes, something that you just have to do. Next year or next month are abstract ideas, they are living just for the next hour.

They live just on that mentality not unlike a feral cat or dog- in hungry, I want to get laid, I’ll harm anyone who gets in the way of that and do anything to get those. Just add in getting high/drunk to the list of desires. And like the feral dog they will find each other and form packs.

For those kind of people there is no rehabilitation or the most part. I have seen a few turned around finding religion, but it’s rare. They just ride the revolving door of harming society, going to jail, harming society, going to jail until they either end up dead or the system finally locks them away from society long term.

It’s not a mental disorder, but it is a totally different way of thinking. Most of us can’t relate to it because we can’t imagine living like that. That is why so many people will object to describing people like this because they can’t grasp that there are people who will think like that this and who live like this. But to them it’s all they know. It’s how life is. And you can’t get through to them that there is anything more.

This kind of behavior is what you get from the young feral human. Raised without any moral values or any care for others or care if they hurt or killed others. They just cared about if they got entertainment from it, and maybe got videos to get internet fake to maybe attract a sexual partner, only to be used and discarded.

If they put them on trial as juveniles and as a result they are released once they are 18 I would bet that by 19 they will be back in the criminal justice system and by 21 back in jail.

What is the right want to handle them? I don’t know. On one hand the victims deserve justice. On the other they are still young teens. On one hand society needs to be protected from people who have demonstrated they don’t care about harming others for no reason. On the other hand there is a slight chance they won’t harm others again.... it’s a tough call.

3-4 years later and the answers would be obvious. The question is can they really renchanged in those 3-4 years?