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delisen

(7,350 posts)
19. We have lots of examples of presidents in their
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:31 PM
Dec 2017

50s and 40s. Have they done exceptional jobs? Are there things they missed? Did they sometimes cede too much power to anti-democrats forces ?

I think the younger presidents often might have achieved more for the people if they had been older at the time they served.

Were younger people any better at recognizing the Russian threat, or at defending against propaganda, and non-violent attacks on democracy by another country.

I think we need to get used to people having longer political careers. It is the result of successful policies we have put in place-such as medicare, public health, anti-discrimination. Up to now people in general have had longer life spans and are healthier at older ages.

What we need is to begin the task of creating more power centers and figure out how they must be coordinated. If we don't make this change we are going to become increasingly authoritarian and conformist society. Power must be closer to the people.

I think we should be on watch for creeping authoritarianism that has arisen-it is going to have some effect on democrats too. This new concern about the age of candidates seems authoritarian. If we have primaries only by election- one person, one vote-why why try to artificially discourage individuals from running by creating out-groups. (Don't run if you are x, y, or z).

The country has partly shifted to the left on healthcare because the Democrats passed the ACA in 2009.

We have a representative democracy and it has many problems. some are systemic. One of these is that our population has massively increased but we have the same number of representatives we had when population was small.

We only still have 100 senators and due to the population differences in states-citizens in large population states are underrepresented.

Our political attention is divided-federal, state, local. Democracy requires an engagement that is time-consuming.

We don't seem to have enough room at the top to accomodate everyone's ambitions.













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The irony is thick. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #1
I agree with him totally. Time for the old ones to step aside, they've had their shraby Dec 2017 #2
I agree janterry Dec 2017 #3
"our effort and failures have really laid the groundwork" loyalsister Dec 2017 #46
They should focus on coaching young people, Blue_true Dec 2017 #13
From "they:" drop dead yourself, Shraby. Hortensis Dec 2017 #35
I'm 75 years of age and I think it's time the younger generation shraby Dec 2017 #36
First Democratic federal candidate in 2018 is 33 crazycatlady Dec 2017 #54
step aside? how bout this? let young people work for it and earn it, like everybody else. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #53
Yup many of the folks in the Senate have been there for decades Egnever Dec 2017 #55
Through the DEMOCRATS WE ELECTED, we gave America what Hortensis Dec 2017 #64
Totally agree with him Kilgore Dec 2017 #4
Time for GenX to move into play here Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #5
I think he's right. Va Lefty Dec 2017 #6
I think we may have 20 candidates running. And they will be from all age groups. StevieM Dec 2017 #7
I'm 70 and on three Democratic committees. I have seen batons passed to the young'uns, and... TreasonousBastard Dec 2017 #8
I totally and wholeheartedly agree. Time for new, younger blood. Golden Raisin Dec 2017 #9
I was thinking he was going to make a very different point. Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #10
I look at the sixties generation and wonder about what they really accomplished. Blue_true Dec 2017 #14
I think you're exactly right. Bleacher Creature Dec 2017 #24
In my opinion, the REAL problem is Fox News alarimer Dec 2017 #65
.... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #27
I'm tired of the generational finger-pointing anyway. LisaM Dec 2017 #29
Yes! loyalsister Dec 2017 #47
And dont get me wrong... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #49
I agree loyalsister Dec 2017 #50
And thank you for Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #58
Howard Dean didn't lose in 2004 because he got excited on TV NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #11
The Very Definition of "Ageism" The River Dec 2017 #12
My problem with old people is that most have compromise values for expediency. Blue_true Dec 2017 #15
Pardon me while I pick my old and decrepit jaw off of the floor. Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #30
You don't seem to be the type of old person that I was referring to. Blue_true Dec 2017 #33
Keep your prejudices, don't get shook, Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #41
I am not getting through. No use to keep trying. nt Blue_true Dec 2017 #42
You're not getting through, becuase you insist you are not ageist Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #48
It's all subordinated. Igel Dec 2017 #16
Retirement is a wonderful thing. GeorgeGist Dec 2017 #18
I agree. Treat people as individuals. spooky3 Dec 2017 #26
Well, LWolf Dec 2017 #17
I don't know what denigration of Millenials you're talking about. The ones that didn't vote? maxsolomon Dec 2017 #21
Kamala looks like a great candidate....for a different time awesomerwb1 Dec 2017 #28
well, we'll see. it's a long long time from now. maxsolomon Dec 2017 #32
I have voted for LWolf Dec 2017 #61
A simple search of DU LWolf Dec 2017 #60
yeah, i have a life. not going to do "simple searches" when i'm not sure what your point was. maxsolomon Jan 2018 #66
Okay. LWolf Jan 2018 #67
We have lots of examples of presidents in their delisen Dec 2017 #19
YEP. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #20
Don't care what age as long as doesn't play golf. delisen Dec 2017 #22
Most modern presidents played some golf JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2017 #38
Golf-environmental disaster, gender inequality, income delisen Dec 2017 #59
Let the "younsters" do it. Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #23
Totally agree. SharonClark Dec 2017 #25
I totally agree with Howard Dean 4now Dec 2017 #31
really? handmade34 Dec 2017 #34
Totally agree with you. erinlough Dec 2017 #37
55 is way too young to be the top age treestar Dec 2017 #63
The Republicans OWN younger generation seats. They completely dominate. joshcryer Dec 2017 #39
Not just for president, but for some of these Congressional seats. Ilsa Dec 2017 #40
I agree kpete Dec 2017 #43
Whene the GOP had 17 candidates, none could collect enough votes to tblue37 Dec 2017 #44
Garcetti is a good mayor and a capable pol but for 2020 I'd go with an oldster. ucrdem Dec 2017 #45
Go knit. shanny Dec 2017 #51
I"m in my 30s and knit crazycatlady Dec 2017 #56
sounds good shanny Dec 2017 #57
Never trust anybody under 30. edbermac Dec 2017 #52
Whoever can win treestar Dec 2017 #62
Kick. sarcasmo Jan 2018 #68
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