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Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
30. Tragic, but fortunately, rare.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 11:51 PM
Jul 2012

The idea that most homicides are committed by people who "just snap" is a myth. Criminologists know that most people who commit homicide have extensive prior criminal histories. And this should not be surprising. Few people develop a callous disregard for the lives of other people overnight. Rather, it is usually years of escalating victimization and violence that culminates in murder.

http://www.cardozolawreview.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=138:kates201086&catid=20:firearmsinc&Itemid=20

"In 2009 Clayton Cramer and I published an article21 describing some of the studies subsequent to those Professor Elliott summarized. Like the prior studies, the later ones continue to demonstrate his point that “virtually all” murderers have prior criminal records. A few examples:

MASSACHUSETTS: “Some 95% of homicide offenders . . . [in a Kennedy School study had been] arraigned at least once in [Page91] Massachusetts courts before they [murdered]. . . . On average . . . homicide offenders had been arraigned for 9 prior offenses.22

ATLANTA: Eighty percent of 1997 Atlanta murder arrestees had previously been arrested at least once for a drug offense; and 70% had three or more prior drug arrests—in addition to all their arrests for other crimes.23

DELAWARE: Reporting on shootings, including many in which victims had only been wounded rather than killed, 80% of shooters had arrest records going all the way back to their juvenile years; 57% had been charged at least twice with drug offenses.24

NEW YORK CITY: A New York Times study of the 1,662 murders in that city over the years 2003-2005 found “[m]ore than 90 percent of the killers had criminal records . . . .”25

ILLINOIS: Over the years 1991-2000, the great majority of murderers had prior felony records.26"


The single biggest determinating factor in whether someone is going to commit murder or not is their past criminal history. If they have no criminal history, they are extremely unlikely to commit murder. It does happen as happened to your family and to those families in the recent mass murder, but fortunately, it is rare.

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i'm so sorry. barbtries Jul 2012 #1
The shooter told police there was a long-standing fued between them. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #4
That's a classic symptom of paranoid schizophrenia. closeupready Jul 2012 #49
No words.... nt nanabugg Jul 2012 #2
I am so sorry! (nt) Tumbulu Jul 2012 #3
:-( Odin2005 Jul 2012 #5
K&R Fumesucker Jul 2012 #6
So what is the poinnt? No way any gun reform that's ever been on the table in the USA would've Lionessa Jul 2012 #7
Get rid of the guns. baldguy Jul 2012 #8
A childish, feel-good sentiment. Daemonaquila Jul 2012 #10
Are you seriously saying that someone... Blanks Jul 2012 #22
Needs and wants.... jaysunb Jul 2012 #26
Now when I was a member of the 'well regulated militia' Blanks Jul 2012 #37
I will not give up my guns. Not happening, where I go and how my life is just now, Lionessa Jul 2012 #12
no one is looking to take your gun annm4peace Jul 2012 #31
The person to whom I was responding doesn't have your opinion. Lionessa Jul 2012 #33
when you report it annm4peace Jul 2012 #55
How? Archae Jul 2012 #34
And your touching display of compassion is part of what endears bluerum Jul 2012 #9
The OP appears to be making a statement on guns rather than requesting compassion. Lionessa Jul 2012 #11
"requesting compassion" - is that when you give compassion? Lex Jul 2012 #14
Actually it explains nothing at all along the lines you suggest. Lionessa Jul 2012 #16
You've nailed a cold and selfish person to the wall alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #24
+1 nt laundry_queen Jul 2012 #56
+1 AllyCat Jul 2012 #39
How about a six shot clip instead of 100 shot canister? xtraxritical Jul 2012 #17
In this OP it was a 6 shot cylinder. So exactly my point which was Lionessa Jul 2012 #20
Its a tragic story, but the OP is the one who started the conversation on gun control. Travis_0004 Jul 2012 #27
+1 Chorophyll Jul 2012 #28
LOL!!...n/t whathehell Jul 2012 #51
actually the uncle was bob dsc Jul 2012 #18
He said great uncle, OH......DUH! He may have meant a great guy who's his uncle, not Lionessa Jul 2012 #23
It isn't all that hard for a great uncle or aunt to have kids about the same age as their dsc Jul 2012 #29
A gun reform that kept guns out of the hands of crazy people would be a good start. pnwmom Jul 2012 #19
The only animosity was in the mind of the shooter. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #21
I don't see that in the OP and I don't read every entry. Lionessa Jul 2012 #25
I'd like to see an example of someone wielding a machete and killing... Blanks Jul 2012 #38
Here you go, I think instead you just need an education. Lionessa Jul 2012 #44
Wow, one guy killed all those people? Blanks Jul 2012 #45
Answers bongbong Jul 2012 #53
Pretty callous comment, don't you think? eom mrmpa Jul 2012 #35
Reality is callous. Lionessa Jul 2012 #36
No only you are callous abelenkpe Jul 2012 #48
I interpreted the OP a different way as more of the "guns don't kill people" argument AllyCat Jul 2012 #42
You sure read way more into a post than is there, Lionessa Jul 2012 #43
a killer claiming an ongoing feud is not evidence of "animosity between neighbors" magical thyme Jul 2012 #50
I am truly sorry for your loss. Go Vols Jul 2012 #13
1963 was when I saw my first real gun Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #15
Tragic, but fortunately, rare. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #30
You never get over that and I am sorry Tsiyu Jul 2012 #32
du rec. nt xchrom Jul 2012 #40
I am very sorry Irishonly Jul 2012 #41
How horrific Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #46
To all of you that expressed their regrets, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #47
I'm sorry for the horrible death of your family members lunatica Jul 2012 #52
My family had a run-in with guns bongbong Jul 2012 #54
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