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Saviolo

(3,280 posts)
22. Free market solution blah blah blah blah
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:05 AM
Dec 2017

Too many American politicians read both Ayn Rand and Adam Smith, embraced the first, and did not understand the second in any way whatsoever, so of course they all worship "rugged individuality" in the form of deregulation and their favourite catch-phrase "free market solutions." Because health care for all would be akin to slavery, y'see. You'd be forcing doctors work for you without pay, and that's just as good as stealing! And I can't believe that's the actual right-wing talking point about this, because that is so disingenuous on the face of it, I can't believe anyone says it with a straight face, but:

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/05/paul-right-to-health-care-is-slavery-054769

“With regard to the idea whether or not you have a right to health care you have to realize what that implies. I am a physician. You have a right to come to my house and conscript me. It means you believe in slavery. You are going to enslave not only me but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants, the nurses. … You are basically saying you believe in slavery,” said Paul (R-Ky.), who is an ophthalmologist.


Truth of the matter is, regulation can spur innovation. This has been floating around on my Twitter feed lately:




In US, average MRI costs $1k. In Japan, it’s set at $105 by the government and providers compete on margin. This led providers to go to Toshiba and demand an inexpensive MRI scanner. MRI scanners in Japan now cost $150k, 10% of the cost in the US. Regulation drove innovation.
I finally got health insurance [View all] burnbaby Dec 2017 OP
Not having to worry about being uninsured will make a major improvement to your health, too.... marble falls Dec 2017 #1
I wish I had known burnbaby Dec 2017 #2
I just signed up with Obamacare. PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #3
I couldn't afford ACA burnbaby Dec 2017 #4
Wow that is a lot! PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #5
That's truly shocking. My sister got quotes like that but she's a self employed attorney who does.. marble falls Dec 2017 #8
they base it off of your salary burnbaby Dec 2017 #9
Like my sister. She stayed with the insurance she had because the duductable was lower and no co-pay marble falls Dec 2017 #14
You estimate your yearly income and adjust payment accordingly, from what I have seen. Anny61 Dec 2017 #24
When your income goes down the subsidy goes up. Merlot Dec 2017 #28
My ACA Silver premium is $125 a month with a $2500 deductible jpak Dec 2017 #11
congrats to you burnbaby Dec 2017 #12
So much depends on where you live Maeve Dec 2017 #16
Welcome to DU,,,,,Comrade! Cryptoad Dec 2017 #35
Google this: hospital rates for uninsured progree Dec 2017 #6
Is this a great country Scarsdale Dec 2017 #15
Why not the USA? Greed. Power. Control. Mostly Greed. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #19
How did your house payment go up $60/mo ? dumbcat Dec 2017 #20
Free market solution blah blah blah blah Saviolo Dec 2017 #22
I got the exact same SS 'raise' LOL pangaia Dec 2017 #27
My HARP mortgage Scarsdale Dec 2017 #36
I haven't had health insurance in nine yrs. Luckily, I also haven't SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #7
wow burnbaby Dec 2017 #10
I'm sure I'll sign up for it, I'm just a little hesitant, because Republicans. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #17
You should bother. Medicare is great. At least get "grandfathered" in to it. Glorfindel Dec 2017 #13
My husband has Medicare and it paid for all of his radiation treatments SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #18
YES, do 'bother.' pangaia Dec 2017 #29
I will. I am lucky to be eligible. Didn't mean to sound otherwise. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #37
Glad to hear it Victor_c3 Dec 2017 #21
K&R! Omaha Steve Dec 2017 #23
they sure as fuck don't give that discount to all... dembotoz Dec 2017 #25
Congrats on the job and the health insurance! IronLionZion Dec 2017 #26
40% off is not a rule, you got a break Merlot Dec 2017 #30
please don't associate burnbaby Dec 2017 #32
I wasn't associating you with repubs Merlot Dec 2017 #33
"would $600K be an ok amount?". Anything less than a million is just an accounting annoyance to me progree Dec 2017 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #31
I was charged about 10 times what insurance companies are charged elmac Dec 2017 #34
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