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yurbud

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116. It's more like grandfather...

Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:45 PM

Dec 2017

Until the Civil Rights movement, African Americans didn't have access to some of the programs that lifted whites out of abject poverty.

To get the votes of Southern Democrats for Social Security, it had to exclude domestic and farm workers, jobs done mostly by blacks at the time.

Something similar happened with the first GI Bill that helped a lot of veterans go to college and buy homes. It was administered by the states, so black GI's had to ask the local racist white politician for what he risked his life to earn, and they said no most of the time.

And of course, the wealth created by the labor of slaves has been passed done to generations of descendants of plantation owners and bankers.

If you found out some of the richest people in Germany's family fortune came from pulling the gold fillings out of Holocaust victims, you might think it's reasonable to give some or all of it back to descendants of the victims.

Maybe instead of reparations from our tax money, it should come from some forensic accounting to figure out where the wealth created by slaves ended up.

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If Democrats win a veto-proof majority in 2018, what should they do with it? [View all] yurbud Dec 2017 OP

Tax the goddamned rich. Orsino Dec 2017 #1

Just curious. former9thward Dec 2017 #21

The Payroll Tax, and the Medicare Tax for a start. TrollBuster9090 Dec 2017 #40

So the payroll tax, which pays social security, should be eliminated or reduced? former9thward Dec 2017 #59

For those who can't afford it, yeah. Orsino Dec 2017 #70

Nope, that's a Republican talking point. TrollBuster9090 Dec 2017 #71

Social Security has always beeen claimed to be an insurance program and not a tax MichMan Dec 2017 #81

If It's Not A Tax, Why Is It Paid For By The "Payroll Tax?" TrollBuster9090 Dec 2017 #84

Yes. Agree with everything you say. gristy Dec 2017 #102

I wonder if they'll even need a veto-proof majority EarlG Dec 2017 #2

If you take money out of his wallet, avebury Dec 2017 #5

I was wondering that too Cary Dec 2017 #54

Repeal #GOPTaxScam underthematrix Dec 2017 #3

second that onetexan Dec 2017 #79

Any of these would be a good start MichMan Dec 2017 #4

I wouldn't even say lower retirement age to 55 but instead, offer golden parachutes yurbud Dec 2017 #23

Holy shit.. #5 Baconator Dec 2017 #30

Yup ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #38

Agreed. I thought the same thing, but didnt want to say it lol bearsfootball516 Dec 2017 #39

What amount would you think is adequate? MichMan Dec 2017 #45

$0.00... Baconator Dec 2017 #65

It's more like grandfather... yurbud Dec 2017 #116

Ironically, none of those USED to be considered radical (with a caveat for #5) TrollBuster9090 Dec 2017 #72

One easy way to stabilize unemployment is golden handshakes yurbud Dec 2017 #117

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #6

Mathematically impossible nt sarisataka Dec 2017 #7

BE lucky to get a simple majority given the KGB will be actively preventing votes from being cast Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #29

Not possible Tiggeroshii Dec 2017 #8

Another poster showed me this is not possible until 20...the numbers don't work. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #9

What policy proposal should Democrats make assuming they have a free hand? yurbud Dec 2017 #24

If it were me I would first focus on making sure everyone we know vote for ANY democrat Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #35

First save the Dreamers and Chip...then address Obamacare with a public option...anyone who has Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #62

The first thing GallopingGhost Dec 2017 #10

If Dems were to win veto-proof majorities TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #11

It is mathematically impossible for them to have one dsc Dec 2017 #12

If the GOP continues like this, they may lose safe seats. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #13

Democrats won't win a veto-proof majority in 2018 Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #14

pick a date. It's more about what you would do without obstruction. yurbud Dec 2017 #28

Here's my wishlist then (in no particular order): Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #69

A fantasy Freddie Dec 2017 #15

voting rights too yurbud Dec 2017 #32

Whatever we do NCDem777 Dec 2017 #16

I actually don't think we have to. We just have to stop lying about their bad behavior yurbud Dec 2017 #27

Completely impossible - only a third of the Senate seats are up each election karynnj Dec 2017 #17

This is impossible. There are only 8 Republicans up for re-election in 2018. Calista241 Dec 2017 #18

So far the max is 59 if McCain and Cotton's seats are open next year. Tiggeroshii Dec 2017 #19

As others have pointed out, you are asking about something that is impossible onenote Dec 2017 #20

Republicans say clearly what they want even when the odds look impossible yurbud Dec 2017 #25

Fine. Just don't pretend that we have a veto proof majority or can get one in 2018. onenote Dec 2017 #46

change it to "at any point in the future" and then answer yurbud Dec 2017 #49

Publicly-Funded Elections Tax. Everybodys in, nobodys out, and Election Day is a Federal Holiday. Volaris Dec 2017 #22

I don't think that's mathematically possible... Baconator Dec 2017 #26

They won't... brooklynite Dec 2017 #31

Not only is it unrealistic, it is mathematically impossible. scheming daemons Dec 2017 #37

Repeal the Tax Scam. . . . Reverse Citizens United by whatever means necessary. BigDemVoter Dec 2017 #33

I think the other justices should just prank Gorsuch until he resigns yurbud Dec 2017 #50

I would throw in repeal Taft-Hartley & enact card check for union membership yurbud Dec 2017 #34

We can't get to 67 Senate seats in 2018... there are only 9 GOP seats up. Best we can do is 58. scheming daemons Dec 2017 #36

To "payback" the people who've paid the GOP to cut taxes for billionairs for a generation TrollBuster9090 Dec 2017 #41

Just a dream.....but.... Thunderbeast Dec 2017 #42

Imprison republicans MyNameGoesHere Dec 2017 #43

Imprison people for political orientation? Just politicians, or all registered GOPers? Marengo Dec 2017 #91

Sure why not. MyNameGoesHere Dec 2017 #93

If thats the case, you may be on the wrong discussion board. Perhap you would feel more at home... Marengo Dec 2017 #110

Yup ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #112

Wha....imprison half population? quartz007 Dec 2017 #104

Overturn this horrible tax bill. nt DesertRat Dec 2017 #44

I agree that should be the first priority. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #115

Repeal Citizen's United. nt WhiteTara Dec 2017 #47

make FDR and Johnson look like amateurs eShirl Dec 2017 #48

A lot, but they won't RussBLib Dec 2017 #51

They should issue a 15,000 page position paper, guillaumeb Dec 2017 #52

I said what SHOULD they do not what WILL they do... yurbud Dec 2017 #56

Nice response!!!!!!!!!! guillaumeb Dec 2017 #61

the mere thought of having a clear path is unpalatable to centrists yurbud Dec 2017 #57

Arrest the Koch Brothers! Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #53

Congress doesn't have the power to arrest or charge anyone with a crime. clementine613 Dec 2017 #96

I know! Just a frustration..... Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #98

IMPEACH MFM008 Dec 2017 #55

They're Going To Pick Up 18 Seats & Lose None? SoCalMusicLover Dec 2017 #58

It has happened before. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #63

only 8 Republican senate seats up in 2018 0rganism Dec 2017 #92

Pass sweeping changes to the tax code, the healthcare system, shanny Dec 2017 #60

EXACTLY. Trumps veto would be the positive equivalent of LBJ's smear on an opponent... yurbud Dec 2017 #118

They won't. Casprings Dec 2017 #64

Impeach the orange jackass and rescind the tax giveaway. Lil Missy Dec 2017 #66

I approve this message. yurbud Dec 2017 #67

LOL! Lil Missy Dec 2017 #82

For God's sake, I hope that they vote to keep their powder dry! Orrex Dec 2017 #68

Some type of gun ban. ileus Dec 2017 #73

Medicare for all, ERA, and repeal Citizens United.replace with Publicly Financed Elections librechik Dec 2017 #74

Here is what I'd do to start Matthew28 Dec 2017 #75

The list of destructive things that have been done must be endless. pangaia Dec 2017 #76

How about we focus on winning a KPN Dec 2017 #77

How do you think you get there? By focusing on the horserace? yurbud Dec 2017 #87

I think we get there FIRST by being engaged in the party locally and in groups like Indivisible, KPN Dec 2017 #88

We got here because there was one more step left out--making sure Dems we elect do yurbud Dec 2017 #89

Agreed -- right on! KPN Dec 2017 #90

Revoke citizenship from everyone who played with the Russians. sofa king Dec 2017 #78

Ditto onetexan Dec 2017 #80

Impeach JonLP24 Dec 2017 #83

If we get to 58, which 9 republicans can we get to vote for conviction Tiggeroshii Dec 2017 #94

Throw the One Ring into Mount Doom? Codeine Dec 2017 #85

Crush them, crush them, crush them MyNameGoesHere Dec 2017 #86

New tax code and healthcare and then... lame54 Dec 2017 #95

If we get veto-proof (2/3) of Congress?? Start by expelling every Rethug clementine613 Dec 2017 #97

None of that is possible ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #101

You're wrong... clementine613 Dec 2017 #105

What are the grounds for impeaching every Republican member of the House and Senate ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #111

You Don't Need A Reason clementine613 Dec 2017 #114

Sorry, but it's not possible to win that kind of majority in 2018 jmowreader Dec 2017 #99

Outlaw the Trump organization fescuerescue Dec 2017 #100

Increase taxes on all rich people quartz007 Dec 2017 #103

I'm up for a 100% tax on those guys... clementine613 Dec 2017 #107

Can't do that... quartz007 Dec 2017 #113

Create duforsure Dec 2017 #106

1. Outlaw gerrymandering 2. End Citizens United. All other problems will then be fixable nt. Persondem Dec 2017 #108

Need to create... duforsure Dec 2017 #109