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ProudLib72

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18. Well Wikipedia doesn't help much
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 02:33 AM
Dec 2017
There are several legends as to the origin of this custom. Two popular explanations for the South’s association with peas and good luck dates back to the American Civil War. The first is associated with General William T. Sherman’s march of the Union Army to the sea, during which they pillaged the Confederates' food supplies. Stories say peas and salted pork were said to have been left untouched, because of the belief that they were animal food unfit for human consumption. Southerners considered themselves lucky to be left with some supplies to help them survive the winter, and black-eyed peas evolved into a representation of good luck. One challenge to this legend is that General Sherman brought backup supplies with him including three days of animal feed[6] and would have been unlikely to have left even animal feed untouched. In addition, the dates of the first average frost for Atlanta and Savannah, respectively, are November 13 and November 28[7]. As Sherman's march was from November 15 to December 21, 1864, it is improbable, although possible, that the Union Army would have come across standing fields of black eyed peas as relayed in most versions of the legend. In another Southern tradition, black-eyed peas was a symbol of emancipation for African-Americans who had previously been enslaved, and who after the Civil War were officially freed on New Years Day.[8][9] Other Southern American traditions point to Jews of Ashkenazi and Sephardic ancestry in Southern cities and plantations.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-eyed_pea


So the Sherman's March theory has problems. And I have a problem with white southerners celebrating emancipation. I guess this is one tradition we just have to accept without too much inquiry.

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That was my moms traditional New Years dinner. She said you had to have black-eyed peas notdarkyet Dec 2017 #1
I'm sorry. The holidays are hard. Laffy Kat Dec 2017 #5
From my 💙 to yours. I'm missing everyone lately. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #21
Remember Jason Chaffetz Ohiogal Dec 2017 #2
Same here in western PA! blue neen Dec 2017 #3
Thank you! Ohiogal Dec 2017 #8
Thats what Im making spinbaby Dec 2017 #34
I shopped on Friday. blue neen Dec 2017 #35
Very southern of you. Laffy Kat Dec 2017 #4
I still don't get the significance of black eyed peas ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #6
after the civil war when sherman marched to the sea questionseverything Dec 2017 #17
Well Wikipedia doesn't help much ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #18
Ive grown black eyed peas GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #29
Most Americans will be eating a lot of Stone Soup once they realize democratisphere Dec 2017 #7
I bought red beans and thick cut bacon for my Hopping John csziggy Dec 2017 #9
I assimilated down south. MB my Slav heritage helped. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #20
Love kholodetz dhol82 Dec 2017 #27
Baba made our 'Studenina'. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #30
what??? onethatcares Dec 2017 #23
Hog jowls are pretty much bacon taken from the pig's double chin csziggy Dec 2017 #24
My wife bought hog jowls for the first time at the local Piggly Wiggly... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #28
Here's a good article about hog jowls csziggy Dec 2017 #25
Hopping John. Yankee viddles! Lol! Kajun Gal Dec 2017 #32
Cabbage?!? Cabbage?!? And black eyed peas? GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #10
I was gonna holler COLLARD GREENS but, Yonnie3 Dec 2017 #12
Wow, just reading the list gives me gas. nt Blue_true Dec 2017 #11
Trade that cabbage for collards. Lochloosa Dec 2017 #13
Icky! Lol! To each his own! Kajun Gal Dec 2017 #31
I break from my mom's fare FormerOstrich Dec 2017 #14
Low Country Boil for NYD DAMANgoldberg Dec 2017 #15
Cotechino sausage and lentils Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #16
Found two ham hocks today and got two cans sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #19
Don't eat pork but smoked chicken will do malaise Dec 2017 #22
Here in PA Dutch country Freddie Dec 2017 #26
Cabbage for dollars. Blackeyed peas for coins. Ham? No clue. Kajun Gal Dec 2017 #33
And cornbread, I'm sure aikoaiko Dec 2017 #36
When I was young remembered having that too! duforsure Dec 2017 #37
Good luck will surely follow! Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #38
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