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cliffordu

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40. I never said anything about the 'blood of true patriots'.

Reply to DirkGently (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:06 AM

Jul 2012

A bit melodramatic, don't you think??

"So far no one's society has collapsed into ashes because they limited firearms".

True dat, but no one has ever tried to seize a hundred million of them, either.

"If our current firearms policies have created a class of people who intend to kill us if we don't do what they say, we may as well just get that over with, because that's an intolerable state of affairs."

I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about here. Where did I say or imply that?

the real gist of MY op was to ask the simple question:

What are you willing to do or sacrifice to eliminate the guns?

Would YOU go take guns from people?

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OK - So let's say we repeal the second amendment. [View all] cliffordu Jul 2012 OP

on the count of three. everyone throw their guns in the river. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #1

Sensible People Know that nothing can ever really be done. Nt xchrom Jul 2012 #2

Yes, there is something that can be done. jaysunb Jul 2012 #6

How would you stop the smuggling of firearms? permatex Jul 2012 #9

Maybe we should consult the Brits on that jaysunb Jul 2012 #30

It's an island. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #31

stop making ammo? backwoodsbob Jul 2012 #14

LOL ! jaysunb Jul 2012 #28

Perversion? How would ammunition not fall under the umbrella of "arms"? nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #65

Well, maybe so...but jaysunb Jul 2012 #66

A couple of generations down the line will curse your name for demolishing what was Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #41

My point exactly n/t jaysunb Jul 2012 #62

There are already millions.. sendero Jul 2012 #45

Plenty of shooters have powder, primers and bullets stockpiled ... spin Jul 2012 #46

many people believe there is no solution possible because there is no solution in sight. LanternWaste Jul 2012 #63

I don't think the military would get involved in this permatex Jul 2012 #3

I believe you are correct. cliffordu Jul 2012 #5

I didn't want to say civil war due to the fear of getting flamed permatex Jul 2012 #7

Just "short magazines and bolt action rifles"? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #4

'Cause WW1 proved bolt action rifles are incapable of killing large numbers of people. Ready4Change Jul 2012 #15

The .45 automatic is just a semi-automatic firearm ... spin Jul 2012 #50

You know, that's what I think. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #57

Funny but I just had a discussion with my son in law about the proper use of the terms ... spin Jul 2012 #59

People who love guns enough to fight to death for them are sick. undeterred Jul 2012 #8

How about if the 1st amendment were restricted, would you fight then? permatex Jul 2012 #13

Why only repeal the 2nd? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #19

The 1st amendment is still completely relevant to our lives Scootaloo Jul 2012 #35

Says you... Mike_Valentine Jul 2012 #61

No you don't Scootaloo Jul 2012 #64

no one said anything about repealing the 4th amendment. unblock Jul 2012 #10

Feds cant stop drug smuggling HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #16

Recommended. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #11

Woah, there, big fella - cliffordu Jul 2012 #37

I think there will be four groups. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #12

Perhaps ten years worth of gun deaths per year would be worth it.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #17

Hmm well I have no interest in repealing any amendments gollygee Jul 2012 #18

I can think of a mass shooting recently that was a "gun person".. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #21

Ah, yes - the extreme presented as the norm. cliffordu Jul 2012 #36

I was responding to this statement.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #44

Theres about one per year... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #25

I hope its not the cops picking up guns... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #20

I'm glad you brought that up.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #24

Thats an old TV show. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #26

Yeah, but Andy would be smart enough to keep Barney's battery in his pocket along with the bullet. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #29

What's To Keep The King Of England From Coming Into Your House And Pushing You Around? ChoppinBroccoli Jul 2012 #22

"It will solve nothing" cbrer Jul 2012 #23

"Allow people handguns with short magazines and bolt action rifles." stopped reading there JVS Jul 2012 #27

I was posing a scenario. cliffordu Jul 2012 #34

Actually, it'd be as simple as classing guns along with any other sort of property Scootaloo Jul 2012 #32

"....... you're all Randy weaver at heart...." cliffordu Jul 2012 #39

Read your OP, you cover the fantasy bases pretty well Scootaloo Jul 2012 #42

lol.... cliffordu Jul 2012 #43

Wow, that's a bit melodramatic, don't you think? DirkGently Jul 2012 #33

I never said anything about the 'blood of true patriots'. cliffordu Jul 2012 #40

You're proceeding from false premises. DirkGently Jul 2012 #67

I think the problem is only going to get worse, too. sofa king Jul 2012 #38

It was a guess on Monday... sofa king Jul 2012 #71

Gee, if they're fine, upstanding, law-abiding citizens wouldn't the owners turn them in? baldguy Jul 2012 #47

Some would, some wouldn't Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #48

There's an estimated 80 million firearm owners in our nation ... spin Jul 2012 #51

Correction: 8 million criminals with deadly weapons. baldguy Jul 2012 #52

You've made them criminals needlessly Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #53

If the law changes, and they don't turn their weapons in, they've made themselves criminals. baldguy Jul 2012 #54

So does my original reply Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #55

Do you exceed the legal speed limit? bighart Jul 2012 #58

Do you know the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony? baldguy Jul 2012 #68

So do you suggest arresting them? ... spin Jul 2012 #60

I'm suggesting that law-abiding citizens can be trusted to follow the law. baldguy Jul 2012 #69

Sounds like you would treat them like people that go 10 mph over the speed limit ... spin Jul 2012 #70

You gotta break a few eggs... ileus Jul 2012 #49

So... Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #56