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124. You are using certain arguements to support another one

Sat Dec 30, 2017, 10:07 PM

Dec 2017

The debate here is that "Existence of UFO technology more advanced than human capabilities has been proven
beyond a reasonable doubt".

There's nothing in your post that supports that claim.

An advanced civilization capable of interstellar travel and sending out ark or generation ships traveling at sub-light speeds ought to be able to colonize the entire galaxy in about 2 million years. We have seen no evidence that that has taken place or is taking place.

It's possible that several hundred thousand advanced alien civilizations formed in our galaxy but it's also possible that, given the age of the galaxy, each one of them has gone extinct, as everything in the universe has a finite lifespan, and we humans are the only intelligent beings in the galaxy right now and no others will appear until millions of years after humans have gone extinct.

Furthermore, a Type III alien civilization on the Kardashev scale, the existence of such civilizations is statistically possible, would appear to us as gods. Confirm the existence of such a civilization and you confirm the existence of God.

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"Existence of UFO technology more advanced than human capabilities has been proven [View all] Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 OP

Yep, and likely have been here for a long time. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #1

I get a kick out of this topic. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #3

That explains the GOP members of Congress. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #4

Definitely the GOP'ers in congress are evil lizards. A few even look that way! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #7

I know, some don't really look human to me. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #14

They will eventually want to eat their own citizens, Soylent Green, that is very telling. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #19

They do seem determined to pile up American dead bodies. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #22

Turtle. Amaryllis Dec 2017 #38

'He went to Jared' looks alien to me. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #133

Jared, McTurtle, Ryan, etc. Not from this planet. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #135

Some appear to be turtles too. Ligyron Dec 2017 #140

imma just leave these here........ Takket Dec 2017 #31

Not to mention: sandensea Dec 2017 #41

In this ugly soul lineup they all win peacebuzzard Dec 2017 #102

Yup, keep going........ mitch96 Dec 2017 #42

When I look at GOP leaders, their faces usually look like they are melting. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #51

Gross!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #71

Times like this, I really, really miss SwampRat. LongTomH Dec 2017 #118

Since Columbus anyway ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #8

Yep, I've heard that before. There is all kinds of sh** going on IMO that we are not privy to and RKP5637 Dec 2017 #12

How are "we not privy to" their existence? jberryhill Dec 2017 #28

If you look into multiple dimensions, it is not necessary to travel the galaxy. RKP5637 Dec 2017 #70

If They're Time Traveling From Here. . . ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #79

Good point: "If They're Time Traveling From Here. . . . . .then they're not aliens. RKP5637 Dec 2017 #81

They Can Talk To Us. . . ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #83

LOL!!! And my cat loves me. So do I, I've always talked to mine. Hmmm.... perhaps they will RKP5637 Dec 2017 #85

LOL! Back To You! ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #87

Ha, yep, definitely! My hair is often fluffy, so I guess I'm stuck with fluffy! RKP5637 Dec 2017 #88

What about the PRIME DIRECTIVE?? Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #139

Always follow the PRIME DIRECTIVE! RKP5637 Dec 2017 #141

It was good enough for Jean Luc, good enough for me. :) Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #143

"He's dead, Jim." lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #150

Classic line from Bones, who didn't have a wide script repertoire. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #152

"I'm a doctor, not an escalator!" lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #159

That was a good line to, I'm a doctor, not a ___________. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #161

Maybe they have revealed themselves in indirect ways. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #138

Why Would They Care? ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #154

Would you care to answer the question? jberryhill Dec 2017 #84

Did you see #81. I think IMO that's more likely. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #86

So another dimension could be three feet away from us, but we cannot see the Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #137

Actually about the same space at the same time in theoretical physics! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #142

Wow, occupying the same space at the same time. Wow. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #144

I'm disappointed in you ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #145

Yes but I didn't know it was the same time and space as us. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #147

Have you watched the movie version of The Mist? ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #149

No I have not seen this movie, will look for it. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #151

Here's the trailer for the movie ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #153

Looks perfect for tonight. I am making a pot of chili and a scary movie Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #155

At "about" the same time ... here's an interesting read. RKP5637 Dec 2017 #164

Wow. The parallel worlds interact on a quantum level. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #167

We're probably somehow banned! RKP5637 Jan 2018 #168

Yep, yellow police tape around our quadrant. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #169

... RKP5637 Jan 2018 #170

Please see #81, just my thoughts. You make a good point! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #82

Makes me think of "Signs" . . . hatrack Dec 2017 #90

Maybe they have, and we have not figured it out yet. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #136

Some where Art Bell is Smiling yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #101

Yeah, I really liked Art Bell. His show continues with Heather Wade, but I always like Art Bell. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #103

Art Bell is a Trump guy all the way Sugarcoated Dec 2017 #129

link? yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #134

It's pretty much all he posts on his fb page Sugarcoated Dec 2017 #163

LOL or put us out of our misery....ya never know.nm Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #2

Maybe we need a help button, like the "help I've fallen down ad!" They can't hear us over Trump RKP5637 Dec 2017 #5

Time to watch this again Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #6

That, is a great movie! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #9

Hear the pilot say "there's a whole fleet of them" Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #10

Just 2 days or so ago. I've always hoped something major like this would happen in my lifetime ... RKP5637 Dec 2017 #15

I've seen/heard this too. greytdemocrat Dec 2017 #34

Contact was a terrific movie. inanna Dec 2017 #17

Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author librechik Dec 2017 #100

The concept of humans fighting aliens and winning is pretty humorous. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #11

Pilot says there is a whole fleet of them, moving faster than anything humans have. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #13

drumpf will tweet them to death Takket Dec 2017 #33

Yes, ..dumbshit could not deal with a superior alien race. But I want to talk about aliens. Stuart G Dec 2017 #46

Also, we may be too dumb to understand their technology. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #53

IMO it is likely we could not even comprehend them in mental or physical from. Humans, for RKP5637 Dec 2017 #78

We anthropomorphize evvvvverything of a high order. Corvo Bianco Dec 2017 #106

lol Yup! Oneironaut Dec 2017 #111

+1000 Pachamama Dec 2017 #55

I have thought the same, that after studying us and seeing we still operate Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #95

hmmmmm ... maybe Trump is a weaponized human! They've attacked us! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #21

Did you ever watch the series Brain Dead? csziggy Dec 2017 #32

Ha, definitely, eating the brains of politicians. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #72

Case In Point ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #89

I assume youre talking about Independence Day. Thats what I thought of too. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #112

Finally warp drive!!!!! N/t gay texan Dec 2017 #16

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence XRubicon Dec 2017 #18

Bingo paleotn Dec 2017 #44

Another horseshit story dug out of the garbage... Archae Dec 2017 #23

Agreed, they are the stuff of fairy tales....for now. nt Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #25

I smell the seeds of another distraction. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #27

Have you bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 #65

Yes and everyone just always has their phone ready to take a picture. tymorial Dec 2017 #126

A phone's camera has ZERO bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 #131

The yes was an agreement to your post tymorial Dec 2017 #132

Sorry, I don't believe you bathroommonkey76 Dec 2017 #158

No, you misunderstood. tymorial Dec 2017 #162

Care to share a link to that interview? Beaverhausen Dec 2017 #92

Yet. Archae Dec 2017 #96

No mountain is climbable until someone climbs it. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #93

WTH are you talking about? n/t USALiberal Dec 2017 #119

So that is not a DOD video? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #110

OMG! brooklynite Dec 2017 #123

"PUT ON THE GLASSES!" Best fight scene ever, and oh, so fitting. TreasonousBastard Dec 2017 #24

Either put on these glasses... Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #73

Imaginary beings for the easily led masses. Cattledog Dec 2017 #26

Seems more likely than not. captain queeg Dec 2017 #29

I enjoy these threads..... Xolodno Dec 2017 #30

I suspect there might have been other advanced civilizations BUT Vogon_Glory Dec 2017 #36

just curious... cause i watched this for the first time just now....... Takket Dec 2017 #35

I believe they don't care if we know they're there. Their only purpose is quarantine patrol Glorfindel Dec 2017 #37

Maybe they just brag about being intelligent. keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #39

Intelligent enough that they do not bother with us. keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #40

Please see post 46...I agree with you but take a more scientific view.. Stuart G Dec 2017 #48

Science? This is the Trump administration. keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #76

Belief in UFOs is like the belief in God Kaleva Dec 2017 #43

I find it hard to believe Skittles Dec 2017 #52

We may not well be all there is Kaleva Dec 2017 #59

I'm sure they would have no idea how to evade detection Skittles Dec 2017 #60

Just like God Kaleva Dec 2017 #61

refer to #45 Skittles Dec 2017 #67

Your belief that UFOs are visiting Earth is based entirely on faith. Kaleva Dec 2017 #69

Not really. meadowlander Dec 2017 #121

You are using certain arguements to support another one Kaleva Dec 2017 #124

I was responding to your claim that belief in UFOs is like belief in a god. meadowlander Dec 2017 #125

Ummm, no. paleotn Dec 2017 #45

People are so clueless and gullible! Ghosts, ESP, Aliens, Etc. Scary. n/t USALiberal Dec 2017 #47

Ghosts are real though Calculating Dec 2017 #56

I believe they are "real" as a psychological phenomenon. Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #77

Cool Story Bro! nt USALiberal Dec 2017 #98

Cell phone cameras in literally EVERY pocket. Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #74

Great point, fuzzy film from the 70s and now nothing. Amazing! n.t USALiberal Dec 2017 #97

Great timing! SCVDem Dec 2017 #49

Or a hoax video. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #50

The video seemed amateurish to me. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #165

It would be foolish to think that there are not other civilizations triron Dec 2017 #54

yup Skittles Dec 2017 #68

Ack, ack... ack, ack ack... Henry Krinkle Dec 2017 #57

Yes, the GOP! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #80

Trump is one of them. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #58

"It's a cookbook !" left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #62

LOL workinclasszero Dec 2017 #105

Lest anyone think aliens showing up to say hello is a good thing... roamer65 Dec 2017 #63

Here is a link to the video: tblue37 Dec 2017 #64

... SidDithers Dec 2017 #66

Aliens from the future powered by cold fusion engines? retread Dec 2017 #75

I watched that video and all I can say is HOLY SHIT Saboburns Dec 2017 #91

Yeah, who knew PhotoShopping could be that grainy L. Coyote Dec 2017 #94

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #99

NYT got duped into running free advertising for a grift. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #104

You really have to laugh matt819 Dec 2017 #107

Well, they did bring us Bayard Dec 2017 #108

I wondered what all the self righteous skeptics on DU would say about this (since Occam librechik Dec 2017 #109

Not always well meaning. tymorial Dec 2017 #128

thank you, ty librechik Dec 2017 #146

No, it hasn't. alarimer Dec 2017 #113

So this is not a DOD video? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #114

I don't care if it is or not. alarimer Dec 2017 #115

It is a UFO according to DOD, it is not proof of aliens visiting earth. XRubicon Dec 2017 #116

Undeniable proof? no, of course not. But it is a high speed Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #117

You realize MANY Military pilots have claimed this shit for decades? YET NO PROOF! nt USALiberal Dec 2017 #120

If there was any UFO technology, it goes with out saying that it would be more advanced... brooklynite Dec 2017 #122

I definitely believe they are out there. In fact, my parents had an experience seeing one. vsrazdem Dec 2017 #127

Seeing something unexplainable does change your perspective. gordianot Dec 2017 #156

This is course means nothing. n/t USALiberal Dec 2017 #157

Definitely an excellent point on your last sentence!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #166

It MUST be true. I saw it on the Internet. Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #130

According to Neil DeGrasse Tyson: "Call me when you have an alien dinner invite." lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #148

Why A Threat? Me. Dec 2017 #160

Exactly. pressbox69 Jan 2018 #171