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59. Funny but I just had a discussion with my son in law about the proper use of the terms ...

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 08:11 AM

Jul 2012

clip and magazine.

I find it sad that many experienced shooters call a magazine a clip.

Another example is the difference between a bullet and a cartridge.

For terminology questions, I prefer the “NRA Firearms Sourcebook.” This outstanding effort on the part of the American Rifleman Technical staff tells us that a bullet is a “non-spherical projectile for use in a rifled barrel...” and a cartridge is “a single round of ammunition consisting of case, primer and propellant with one or more projectiles.” In other words, a bullet is the part of a cartridge that goes sailing downrange to do its work. The terms are not interchangeable and should be used for their specific and individual meanings.
http://www.americanrifleman.org/blogs/bullets-and-cartridges/

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OK - So let's say we repeal the second amendment. [View all] cliffordu Jul 2012 OP

on the count of three. everyone throw their guns in the river. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #1

Sensible People Know that nothing can ever really be done. Nt xchrom Jul 2012 #2

Yes, there is something that can be done. jaysunb Jul 2012 #6

How would you stop the smuggling of firearms? permatex Jul 2012 #9

Maybe we should consult the Brits on that jaysunb Jul 2012 #30

It's an island. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #31

stop making ammo? backwoodsbob Jul 2012 #14

LOL ! jaysunb Jul 2012 #28

Perversion? How would ammunition not fall under the umbrella of "arms"? nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #65

Well, maybe so...but jaysunb Jul 2012 #66

A couple of generations down the line will curse your name for demolishing what was Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #41

My point exactly n/t jaysunb Jul 2012 #62

There are already millions.. sendero Jul 2012 #45

Plenty of shooters have powder, primers and bullets stockpiled ... spin Jul 2012 #46

many people believe there is no solution possible because there is no solution in sight. LanternWaste Jul 2012 #63

I don't think the military would get involved in this permatex Jul 2012 #3

I believe you are correct. cliffordu Jul 2012 #5

I didn't want to say civil war due to the fear of getting flamed permatex Jul 2012 #7

Just "short magazines and bolt action rifles"? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #4

'Cause WW1 proved bolt action rifles are incapable of killing large numbers of people. Ready4Change Jul 2012 #15

The .45 automatic is just a semi-automatic firearm ... spin Jul 2012 #50

You know, that's what I think. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #57

Funny but I just had a discussion with my son in law about the proper use of the terms ... spin Jul 2012 #59

People who love guns enough to fight to death for them are sick. undeterred Jul 2012 #8

How about if the 1st amendment were restricted, would you fight then? permatex Jul 2012 #13

Why only repeal the 2nd? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #19

The 1st amendment is still completely relevant to our lives Scootaloo Jul 2012 #35

Says you... Mike_Valentine Jul 2012 #61

No you don't Scootaloo Jul 2012 #64

no one said anything about repealing the 4th amendment. unblock Jul 2012 #10

Feds cant stop drug smuggling HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #16

Recommended. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #11

Woah, there, big fella - cliffordu Jul 2012 #37

I think there will be four groups. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #12

Perhaps ten years worth of gun deaths per year would be worth it.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #17

Hmm well I have no interest in repealing any amendments gollygee Jul 2012 #18

I can think of a mass shooting recently that was a "gun person".. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #21

Ah, yes - the extreme presented as the norm. cliffordu Jul 2012 #36

I was responding to this statement.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #44

Theres about one per year... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #25

I hope its not the cops picking up guns... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #20

I'm glad you brought that up.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #24

Thats an old TV show. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #26

Yeah, but Andy would be smart enough to keep Barney's battery in his pocket along with the bullet. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #29

What's To Keep The King Of England From Coming Into Your House And Pushing You Around? ChoppinBroccoli Jul 2012 #22

"It will solve nothing" cbrer Jul 2012 #23

"Allow people handguns with short magazines and bolt action rifles." stopped reading there JVS Jul 2012 #27

I was posing a scenario. cliffordu Jul 2012 #34

Actually, it'd be as simple as classing guns along with any other sort of property Scootaloo Jul 2012 #32

"....... you're all Randy weaver at heart...." cliffordu Jul 2012 #39

Read your OP, you cover the fantasy bases pretty well Scootaloo Jul 2012 #42

lol.... cliffordu Jul 2012 #43

Wow, that's a bit melodramatic, don't you think? DirkGently Jul 2012 #33

I never said anything about the 'blood of true patriots'. cliffordu Jul 2012 #40

You're proceeding from false premises. DirkGently Jul 2012 #67

I think the problem is only going to get worse, too. sofa king Jul 2012 #38

It was a guess on Monday... sofa king Jul 2012 #71

Gee, if they're fine, upstanding, law-abiding citizens wouldn't the owners turn them in? baldguy Jul 2012 #47

Some would, some wouldn't Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #48

There's an estimated 80 million firearm owners in our nation ... spin Jul 2012 #51

Correction: 8 million criminals with deadly weapons. baldguy Jul 2012 #52

You've made them criminals needlessly Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #53

If the law changes, and they don't turn their weapons in, they've made themselves criminals. baldguy Jul 2012 #54

So does my original reply Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #55

Do you exceed the legal speed limit? bighart Jul 2012 #58

Do you know the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony? baldguy Jul 2012 #68

So do you suggest arresting them? ... spin Jul 2012 #60

I'm suggesting that law-abiding citizens can be trusted to follow the law. baldguy Jul 2012 #69

Sounds like you would treat them like people that go 10 mph over the speed limit ... spin Jul 2012 #70

You gotta break a few eggs... ileus Jul 2012 #49

So... Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #56