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Sen. Walter Sobchak

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36. The greatest threat to democracy is intergenerational poverty

Mon Jan 1, 2018, 06:01 PM

Jan 2018

Somewhat by accident and somewhat by design and by good intentions and bad we're creating a class system in this country, complete with a landed gentry and regional disparities that are something that wouldn't have looked out of place in early-modern Europe.

The people who wind up at the bottom of this new class system are going to be mostly unrepresented by their own indifference and that of society.

That is a bigger problem than Trump, a decade from now no matter what happens Trump will be gone while the issues we have struggled with for decades will still be with us and all the while continue to metastasize.

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My response to Nate Silver saying "2017 & Trump could have been a lot worse" [View all] stevenleser Jan 2018 OP

He didn't kick off a nuclear holocaust... yet... TygrBright Jan 2018 #1

It's a plus because we are not "All" dead. chelsea0011 Jan 2018 #20

K&R... spanone Jan 2018 #2

Tbh I was worried about full-on fascism at first Loki Liesmith Jan 2018 #3

He isn't wrong Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #4

Give it Time. BannonsLiver Jan 2018 #6

Yeah... Line his pockets and his fellow oligarchs' pockets, at the expense of 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #7

I didn't say he wasn't a disaster Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #11

Hes reshaping the world to suit bigoted white sexists- but not your problem I guess ? bettyellen Jan 2018 #34

Bigoted white sexists have not been introduced to society in the last two years. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #35

Wow, Im talking policies- but I guess you havent noticed. The most vulnerable will be hurt badly. bettyellen Jan 2018 #37

I guess you haven't noticed Iraq has been in flames for going on fifteen years Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #39

So you dont give a fuck about the kids who will die for lack of healthcare. Got it. bettyellen Jan 2018 #40

Show me where I have advocated for anything other than universal healthcare Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #43

Si if its not universal health care, screw the kids. Screw the most impoverished- theyre not bettyellen Jan 2018 #48

You are clearly having a conversation with someone else, don't let me interrupt. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #49

You clearly prioritize other things than their lives to minimize the damage done. bettyellen Jan 2018 #50

I prioritize defeating Republicans Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #52

Moral entrepreneurs. Okaaaay then. bettyellen Jan 2018 #53

Really? GaryM Jan 2018 #18

Our institutions are stronger than Trump and have survived worse than Trump Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #25

If your point is trump is an idiot, I'll give you that. But... GaryM Jan 2018 #31

The greatest threat to democracy is intergenerational poverty Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #36

A decade from now the religious nutbag judges will be punishing women for everything. bettyellen Jan 2018 #38

Where do you live where asshole conservatives are a recent phenomenon? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #41

Asshole conservative judges with lifetime appointments are a threat to all women. Fuck minimizing bettyellen Jan 2018 #42

And are you loving Bush II's judicial appointments? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #44

The appointments now are more numerous and harmful. I get you dont give a shit. Thats clear. bettyellen Jan 2018 #45

If Trump does something more disasterous than helping establish ISIS Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #47

Wow, so someday you might call out Trump! Thats nice. LOL. bettyellen Jan 2018 #60

Priorities? I just want to defeat Republicans nationwide Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2018 #62

In the meantime youll sit on your hands waiting for war. So helpful. bettyellen Jan 2018 #63

American women are not as helpless quartz007 Jan 2018 #55

Helpless? I never said that. You insult us by trivializing this huge assault on our rights. bettyellen Jan 2018 #57

I am not as pessimistic about American women quartz007 Jan 2018 #58

Its not about the women- its about how the law treats women. Bizarre how everyone minimizing bettyellen Jan 2018 #59

In the international sense, I especially agree. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #19

I'll agree with you Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #32

Silver has become such a dissapointment BannonsLiver Jan 2018 #5

Good advice.. Cha Jan 2018 #9

Nate has moneyM9ost of what il douche has tried would have no effect on him rpannier Jan 2018 #14

He's terrible at crunching the numbers GaryM Jan 2018 #17

That's a freaking ridiculous line to take.. Cha Jan 2018 #8

Yes, he failed to kill Obamacare, he failed to deport millions, he could have attacked Iran Cicada Jan 2018 #10

His sabotage of the ACA is already causing damage dalton99a Jan 2018 #12

Good for you Steve rpannier Jan 2018 #13

Right.. he didn't kill Cha Jan 2018 #15

I suspect the residents of Puerto Rico mnhtnbb Jan 2018 #16

Entitled rich guys like Silver opining that Trump has been OK...for you maybe. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #21

What is Nate hoping for? pressbox69 Jan 2018 #22

He's not wrong mythology Jan 2018 #23

From my vantage point, Trump has turned out much worse than I expected. Vinca Jan 2018 #24

Agreed! didn't know until after the election that trump was a nazi and KKK sympathizer GaryM Jan 2018 #33

Trump has made it o.k. to hate again LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2018 #51

2017 & Clinton would have been so much better. tanyev Jan 2018 #26

Of course you're right but let's face it pressbox69 Jan 2018 #29

Privileged asshole says what? MrsCoffee Jan 2018 #27

Good for you Steve. Problem is, the list is so large what trump and the republicans have done, it still_one Jan 2018 #28

The bar has been set quite low, as long as he doesn't kill us all, Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #30

Lot worse? Talk about lowering the bar! IluvPitties Jan 2018 #46

What lowering the bar? Igel Jan 2018 #54

Nate Silver needs to read this...! Cha Jan 2018 #56

+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #61