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(5,210 posts)I can assure you that Democrats have been "losing" elections they didn't really lose since at least 2000. The real problem in FL 2000 wasn't hanging chads, but rigged electronic scanners. And things have gotten worse and worse as time has worn on.
Virginia won LANDSLIDES with paper ballots this year. Yes, turnout was great, but I'm convinced that wasn't all there was to it.
Here's some food for thought, and this is just one example. There are thousands of examples - not all of them at the Presidential level - for nearly 2 decades now. The unverifiable, innately (purposely) hackable electronic voting machines (with "proprietary software" the mfgrs will NOT allow anyone to review ever for any reason, even suspected fraud) are a tremendous danger to our democracy:
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/rigged-election-donald-trump-won-every-surprise-swing-state-by-the-same-1-margin/118/
The most commonly posited explanation of Donald Trumps shocking election victory was that every professional pollster in the nation despite each working independently and using differing methodologies somehow managed to overlook the same pockets of Trump voters in these states. If such pockets did exist, they would have existed in varying sizes in each of the four states, thus resulting in different sized wins in each.
Ask any statistician and theyll tell you that a reasonable distribution of the results would have been Trump winning one of the states by one percent, won one of them by perhaps three percent, won one of them by two percent, lost one of them by one percent, or something along those lines. But instead the voting tallies looked startlingly different from any natural distribution. In fact they looked startlingly the same.
According to the New York Times, the voting results broke down like this: Trump won Florida by just over one percent of the vote. He also won Pennsylvania by just over one percent. He won Michigan by just under one percent. And he won Wisconsin by precisely one percent. Thats not how numbers tend to work in the real world.
On its own, this kind of suspiciously consistent numerical dispersion across the four states that decided the election would be something that could be written off as a mere fluke. But when you put it within the context of the numerous other ways in which the voting tallies make no mathematical sense, it points to the numbers having been rigged or altered.
Jon Ossoff didn't lose his election either.
On Election Day, Handel pulled out a whopping 16 percent lead, for a crushing 58% to 42% division of the days votes. That means that all 5% of the undecided voters broke for Handel, the poll was off by its farthest estimate and another 3.5% of Ossoffs voters switched sides into her camp. All this despite Ossoffs intensive door-to-door ground offensive that Garland Favorito, who lives in the heart of the sixth district called the most massive operation hes ever seen. Favorito is the founder of VoterGA, a nonpartisan election reform group. He said Handel had signs up, but her canvassing operation didnt approach Ossoffs.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/georgia-question-6th-district-election-results/
There's a reason, btw, that exit polls are used around the world to detect election fraud, and they were considered reliable here too UNTIL they started showing problems that were actually there but media didn't want to believe, so didn't. Now the problem is so bad that I actually heard a political pundit say during election night in Alabama, "Oh, exit polls -- always unreliable." NO, always quite reliable.
Ossoff's election results got challenged:
July 4, 2017
Georgias electronic touchscreen voting system is so riddled with problems that the results of the most expensive House race in U.S. history should be tossed out and a new election held, according to a lawsuit filed by a government watchdog group and six Georgia voters.
The new lawsuit comes weeks after the publication of a classified National Security Agency report describing a sophisticated scheme, allegedly by Russian military intelligence, to infiltrate local U.S. elections systems using phishing emails.
The suit cites the work of private cybersecurity researcher Logan Lamb, who discovered last August that a misconfigured server had left Georgias 6.7 million voter records and other sensitive files exposed to hackers. The complaint also notes that seven months after Lamb made that discovery, another researcher was able to do the same.
A spokeswoman for Kemp did not immediately respond to a request for comment Tuesday. But in a column Sunday in USA Today, Kemp blamed the news media for developing "false narratives about Russian hacking and potential vulnerabilities in the system. The prevailing plot line is that states like Georgia cant provide suitable security for elections."
Kemp asserted that states are doing enough to keep elections secure, and he said, "Anything to the contrary is fake news."
Marilyn Marks, executive director of the Coalition for Good Governance, said the lawsuit was filed hours ahead of a deadline at midnight Monday to contest the election. She says the group does election integrity work in multiple states.
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/2017/07/04/lawsuit-seeks-to-void-georgia-congressional-election-results/
And then the funniest damn thing happened -- the folks at Kennesaw University who were in charge of safeguarding the election results up and erased them!! Purposely. That was so bad that the state's Attorney General, no friend of voters, stepped down from representing the good people who did that in the law suit.
I hope you'll take the time -- and interest -- to explore the matter in more depth. There's a statistician in Kansas who has uncovered "impossible" statistical anomalies in their voting. And, of course, TPTB won't let her proceed (get records to validate her work? testify to state lege? both? Memory fails me on this one).
And didn't we hear during the early election that Clinton in FL and some other state had enough of a margin in absentee ballots alone to ensure that she'd win those states?
On Twitter, @jennycohn1 is an attorney who's good to follow, tho I just discovered her so don't have anything to share yet, really.
Bradblog.com -- go back to his archives during any of the elections. Greg Palast, who has some YouTube videos linked to on his site (see right column, bottom) http://www.gregpalast.com/ . A couple of interest groups that escape me at the moment. Ohio's been a hotbed of election corrupton with voting machines since George W and Ken Blackwell. Lots of info on that out there, tho it's old.
Here's a little more info for you:
Hackers breach dozens of voting machines brought to conference
Voting Machine Security Data security and foreign policy analysts talked about the findings of a DEF CON report on the vulnerabilities of voting machines and other election equipment used throughout the U.S. DEF CON is an annual conference held annually in Las Vegas, Nevada. In this discussion the panelists focused on the broader national security implications following reports of Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. Speakers included DEF CON founder Jeff Moss and Douglas Lute, a former U.S. ambassador to NATO.
This event was co-hosted by DEF CON and the Atlantic Council.
Hacker demonstrates how voting machines can be compromised
This just barely scratches the surface. There is a TON of info out there.