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Most Democratic Senators, including 11 women and Bernie Sanders, signed the letter [View all] pnwmom Jan 2018 OP

+1 NCTraveler Jan 2018 #1

Al Franken rolled over on his colleagues and constituents? REALLY? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #27

Absolutely. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #119

Not at all what happened. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #122

It's exactly what happened. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #129

Didnt fight? What would he have done, called the women liars? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #131

Have to admit, I'm also a little disappointed in Al Franken's concession, BUT InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #103

Of course. nycbos Jan 2018 #2

Well, she started it! mcar Jan 2018 #3

It used to be called WhiteTara Jan 2018 #15

She and only she is responsible mcar Jan 2018 #18

No - it is not swiftboating karynnj Jan 2018 #44

+1 Lucinda Jan 2018 #86

But why is she, and only she, singled out for criticism? mcar Jan 2018 #112

Franken devoted his political career to wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #57

You said all the senators mcar Jan 2018 #59

Yeah, bugs me too marylandblue Jan 2018 #4

Democratic Majority Leader Schumer would have been in charge delisen Jan 2018 #6

Amazing; Schumer gets beaten up here for putting politics ahead of principle... brooklynite Jan 2018 #95

She certainly led the charge, however TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #5

The way the others all immediately followed suggests this was planned in advance marylandblue Jan 2018 #7

I disagree, but it makes little difference now. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #12

100pc Alice11111 Jan 2018 #78

She started it! mcar Jan 2018 #19

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #20

Thank you for proving my point mcar Jan 2018 #21

What point was that? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #23

Read what you said - "against Bush" -- the equivalent was "against Trump" karynnj Jan 2018 #46

You wouldn't have seen anything in the general mcar Jan 2018 #115

Kerry was trashed here during the primaries for the vote as much as Clinton and he also was called a karynnj Jan 2018 #121

Nope, Kerry was constantly excoriated on DU emulatorloo Jan 2018 #128

Were you here in 2004? dansolo Jan 2018 #110

I've been here since 2002 mcar Jan 2018 #134

She didn't lead any charge oberliner Jan 2018 #105

The "vitriol" is aimed at the ones with presidentail aspirations question everything Jan 2018 #8

Point to the vitriol aimed at Harris, Warren and Sanders. brooklynite Jan 2018 #96

OK, it is, will be during the primaries, my vitriol question everything Jan 2018 #124

There has been zero vitrol directed at Harris, Warren, or Sanders oberliner Jan 2018 #106

I think that at the beginning Harris was included since she appeard with Gillibrand question everything Jan 2018 #126

She has led the charge in addressing sexual assault as a senator loyalsister Jan 2018 #9

Fair point I did enjoy watching her make the Military Leaders squirm during several Senate hearings. irisblue Jan 2018 #22

I hate to see him go loyalsister Jan 2018 #36

I totally agree with you here. Democratic female politicians are on new ground here irisblue Jan 2018 #38

Keeping the women voters is essential loyalsister Jan 2018 #56

We Democrats are consistent in that behavior. Nt Anny61 Jan 2018 #10

No matter who signed what letter, in the end, the decision to resign was Al Sophia4 Jan 2018 #11

At least two women did not sign it. spooky3 Jan 2018 #13

It would have been inappropriate for the women on the ethics committee to sign any letter pnwmom Jan 2018 #17

Possibly, but your assertion about all is incorrect. spooky3 Jan 2018 #24

That list is outdated. Klobuchar did sign. pnwmom Jan 2018 #34

I have no idea what that website is that you are linking to. spooky3 Jan 2018 #40

Sen Klobuchar was his senate partner. She could not do that politically irisblue Jan 2018 #35

It doesnt matter. The point is that not all female spooky3 Jan 2018 #39

I am not disputing a fact. I am pointing out that Sen Klobauchar has responsibilities to her state irisblue Jan 2018 #42

Klobuchar agreed that Franken resigning was the 'right thing' onenote Jan 2018 #54

Sen Frankens' 1st public accusation was 11/16. Sen Klobachur made a statement that same day irisblue Jan 2018 #65

Here's what she said on the day before he announced. The same day the letter was released onenote Jan 2018 #68

Thank you for showing this. I had not seen it. irisblue Jan 2018 #72

Bullshit. NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #14

Exactly Owl Jan 2018 #25

Right elleng Jan 2018 #28

You got it in the first word Nance. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2018 #31

No doubt about it Nance it was a political calculation, and the other Senators jumping on the band still_one Jan 2018 #32

The thing is NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #43

I agree with everything you said. There could be another school of thought, that pushing Franken to still_one Jan 2018 #52

"That fairness was not extended to Franken." NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #58

Without Fairness Me Too Is A Joke SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #85

Its the media and the optics RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #98

Agree. Nt spooky3 Jan 2018 #41

EXACTLY! nt Raine Jan 2018 #74

Gillibrand is a champion of women oberliner Jan 2018 #107

I consistently see that allegation/talking-point, but I never see the hard evidence supporting it. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #108

Who said evidence is needed to demonize someone. nt Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #133

it seems to me (IMHO only) that the media whipped the accusations into a frenzy, then Al, being a diva77 Jan 2018 #16

because she ran with it; her choice. elleng Jan 2018 #26

So did Bernie and all the rest. Their choice. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #30

Several male senators called for Franken's resignation. Casey, Donnelly, Brown, Markey, Bennet diva77 Jan 2018 #75

Bernie is much higher profile than Gillibrand or the other names you mention, pnwmom Jan 2018 #76

Full list: Schumer and majority of Democratic senators call for Franken to resign diva77 Jan 2018 #79

Bernie also issued his own separate statement. They didn't all do that. pnwmom Jan 2018 #81

I'm not sure what your point is. I'm done with this exchange. nt diva77 Jan 2018 #82

Same point as it always is melman Jan 2018 #84

I would be gratified if there were someone who would investigate LeeAnn Tweeden dhol82 Jan 2018 #29

For once blaming Gilli has NOTHING to do with her being a woman. LakeArenal Jan 2018 #33

Yes. Thanks. elleng Jan 2018 #37

Exactly. NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #45

Oh the irony GaryCnf Jan 2018 #47

Can you explain this this, please? I really don't get what you are trying to say here. lunamagica Jan 2018 #50

I'm not sure how to clarify this GaryCnf Jan 2018 #71

Perhaps the fact that she she accepted support, endorsements and money from the Clintons lunamagica Jan 2018 #73

So it is all about the Clintons GaryCnf Jan 2018 #87

Seriously? No, this is about Gillibrand, and the way she acted in the Franken matter and her lunamagica Jan 2018 #90

I await the equal vitiol GaryCnf Jan 2018 #91

Speaking for myself, I feel the same about the rest of them lunamagica Jan 2018 #92

I accept that and applaud your consistency GaryCnf Jan 2018 #97

Oh geez LakeArenal Jan 2018 #117

Just one small question GaryCnf Jan 2018 #140

Some one said it before.... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #141

As I said to another member GaryCnf Jan 2018 #142

I dont think the others are getting a free pass LakeArenal Jan 2018 #143

Ding... ding.. disillusioned73 Jan 2018 #100

Yes. Please explain further. LakeArenal Jan 2018 #69

Because she led it. Same reason bernie gets blamed for lack of substance for bills he calls for JI7 Jan 2018 #48

That is true. I think she was the first and that is why. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #49

She was the ringleader Bettie Jan 2018 #51

How do you know she wasn't the front woman, delegated by the group for the role? nt pnwmom Jan 2018 #53

If that was the case, it was a either stupid decision Bettie Jan 2018 #67

Well, if your pure speculation actually turned out to be fact, that would be different. kcr Jan 2018 #104

Bernie Sanders is NOT a Democrat. The woman toward whom the vitriol is directed asked for it. Glorfindel Jan 2018 #55

Why is that Democratic woman singled out over all the others who signed it, including Bernie pnwmom Jan 2018 #64

There have been over 60 responses to that question... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #70

There obviously is interest in the topic. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #77

How many answers do you need? LakeArenal Jan 2018 #116

Do you think I am in control of how many people respond? That's an odd thought. nt pnwmom Jan 2018 #125

No but you might by the high number of responses LakeArenal Jan 2018 #146

Yep...its pretty transparent. nt LexVegas Jan 2018 #60

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #61

+100. N/t obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2018 #62

my two senators KT2000 Jan 2018 #63

This is what happens when you act like a leader. aikoaiko Jan 2018 #66

Everyone who signed the letter is responsible for their assent, not just Gillibrand. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author melman Jan 2018 #94

She didn't act like a leader oberliner Jan 2018 #109

KG led the way. aikoaiko Jan 2018 #111

Chuck Schumer is the Democratic party leader in the Senate oberliner Jan 2018 #113

ok, if you say KG isn't a leader on this issue than so be it. aikoaiko Jan 2018 #114

First among equals oberliner Jan 2018 #120

Sure, I can live with first among equals, but that, in my mind,... aikoaiko Jan 2018 #127

I'm very unhappy MFM008 Jan 2018 #83

Hubris, vanity and callous political ambition Cosmocat Jan 2018 #88

Unfortunately too many here cling to a cult of personality Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #89

They all suck! GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #93

Most of them are back benchers wholl never be on the big stage RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #99

Bernie is not a Democrat. Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #101

Not exactly blue cat Jan 2018 #102

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #118

Yes. LakeArenal Jan 2018 #123

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2018 #130

Very well said Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #132

Typical mysogonist tact. Blue_true Jan 2018 #135

Franken's picture effectively destroyed him Yuorik57 Jan 2018 #136

Nah, not at all. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #137

Was she? Yuorik57 Jan 2018 #138

I don't think it was ever clear whether she was sleeping or feigning sleep in the picture. pnwmom Jan 2018 #145

"Democrat candidates"? Really? And what does President Clinton have to do with this? George II Jan 2018 #147

She was the ring leader. Ligyron Jan 2018 #139

Yes, and.... uhm... I'd say more but that's the tea right there. JHan Jan 2018 #144