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IluvPitties

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2. Ideally...

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:47 AM

Jan 2018

Men and women who are involved in the situation can talk about it and find common ground in regards to what is best for both at that point in their lives. Of course, women have the last word, but at least in my personal case, I'd hate for my wife to treat me jus as a sperm donor with no say in such a big decision as having a child.

In the public arena, however, we men have no say.

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Until this comes out of a man's body... [View all] CousinIT Jan 2018 OP

One of the guys I work with was complaining about women having abortions one day. Arkansas Granny Jan 2018 #1

Do keep in mind Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #12

I hadn't considered that possibility. I was only thinking of my coworker. Arkansas Granny Jan 2018 #24

Then it's a good thing Arkansas Granny asked him, isn't it? Mariana Jan 2018 #81

Sorry - Made me think of this! Beartracks Jan 2018 #103

good for you! except i would have said 'then shut the fuck up' samnsara Jan 2018 #28

I wonder what he would've said if you asked him if he'd ever had unprotected sex with a woman tetedur Jan 2018 #94

Good point. Arkansas Granny Jan 2018 #95

Ideally... IluvPitties Jan 2018 #2

Ideally there would be no pregnancies caused by lunatica Jan 2018 #11

I think you're missing the point askyagerz Jan 2018 #19

My point exactly lunatica Jan 2018 #39

Actually, there are plenty of DU posters who say they are Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #21

I am very much pro-abortion. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #49

I am pro-abortion. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #52

You rang? Heddi Jan 2018 #55

Add me to the Pro-abortion list. progressoid Jan 2018 #60

Sure there is. Most people view it as necessary but unfortunate Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #61

You've clearly put a lot of thought into this. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #63

So you think it helps???? Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #65

Who is being callous? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #66

In case you haven't noticed, the GOP hold the House, Senate Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #70

So you think if you're mealymouthed about it, the GOP might forget they completely oppose abortion? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #74

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #76

No one is forcing anyone to call anything anything. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #91

I don't view it as unfortunate. I seek to normalize the 'moral' baggage it currently carries. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #72

You are (I am assuming by your handle) atheist Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #75

Only half of those Catholics see abortion as morally wrong. progressoid Jan 2018 #84

So? Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #87

So you brought up the issue of faith in your post progressoid Jan 2018 #93

i grew up with mostly catholics barbtries Jan 2018 #92

We only won the Catholic vote among Hispanics. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #90

I didn't say it's WONDERFUL. progressoid Jan 2018 #80

But there are those here who do. Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #82

So a woman who has an abortion has made "unfortunate" decisions? Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #97

I fucking hate when people twist words like that. Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #99

So these women should have done something else in order to avoid these abortions, right? Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #100

Whatever you say Oracle. Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #102

Fun? Not really. It is time I donate to the cause of trying to get people to understand Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #104

Having an abortion radical noodle Jan 2018 #113

When someone has an appendectomy to say it's "unfortunate"? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #98

Count me in as being pro-abortion. demmiblue Jan 2018 #62

Nothing extreme about being pro abortion. DLevine Jan 2018 #78

I'm pro-abortion. I am enthusiastically in favor of safe and effective medical procedures. nt. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #96

I'm pro-abortion musette_sf Jan 2018 #101

Count me in as pro-abortion, I wish we would kill more. Overpopulation is a real issue. nt MadDAsHell Jan 2018 #111

I am pro-abortion and stated as much below. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #54

Way to twist what I said lunatica Jan 2018 #58

What I should have said was... GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #64

That goes without saying if you say youre pro choice lunatica Jan 2018 #73

It's one thing for a man to have an opinion. It's another for him to believe he has the right OregonBlue Jan 2018 #3

THIS. n/t CousinIT Jan 2018 #40

A man is certainly entitled to an opinion on abortion Orrex Jan 2018 #4

It's very human to have empathy for people who aren't yourself. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #8

The only man who really should have any input about reproductive decisions forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #17

Here's how I've come to view the father's role: Orrex Jan 2018 #27

Exactly. Once I made the decision not to reproduce, MineralMan Jan 2018 #32

THIS. 100000 times. THIS. CousinIT Jan 2018 #41

At the risk of overstating the point... Orrex Jan 2018 #43

This +1000! smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #67

I'm not arguing, but I don't see it as so cut and dried. forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #79

Do you think a woman should be required to inform the man Mariana Jan 2018 #86

No. I don't think anyone should be made to do anything. forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #105

At the risk of sounding dismissive, that risk is part of the choice he makes Orrex Jan 2018 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #108

It's silly saying the man should have input Yupster Jan 2018 #110

I don't care if the person is a woman with 10 children n2doc Jan 2018 #5

Whenever a man gives his opinion on abortion, I ask if he's had a vasectomy crazycatlady Jan 2018 #6

too limiting... handmade34 Jan 2018 #83

What if it's a pro choice opinion? BannonsLiver Jan 2018 #121

This kind of claim dismisses a lot of allies. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #7

We're not trying to silence men. lark Jan 2018 #22

That's not what that meme in the OP says. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #23

That's kind of the problem with memes mythology Jan 2018 #35

The most important decision a woman can make, isn't yours. CrispyQ Jan 2018 #37

It isn't, but I'm a portion of the electorate and we influence the legislature. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #44

Where does it state you can't voice your opinion or be part of the debate? CrispyQ Jan 2018 #46

The image in the OP has some very simple plain english on it. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #47

I'm not the OP. --nt CrispyQ Jan 2018 #48

"A perfect meme" AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #50

Yes, I think that's what happened. CrispyQ Jan 2018 #68

No worries, my bad. Re-reading it, there was a clue that you meant the other post. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #71

BS. We have an opinion, usually better kept to ourselves. The decision and all that comes with it... marble falls Jan 2018 #106

Currently the issue is much more fundamental than that. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #118

The meme is correct. The choice is not yours. The issue of abortion should not be about making.... marble falls Jan 2018 #119

At the moment, in the united states, the legal and moral implications of abortion are at issue. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #120

+1 harun Jan 2018 #117

++ heaven05 Jan 2018 #9

Can't stop people from having opinions treestar Jan 2018 #10

+1 OnDoutside Jan 2018 #16

thank you, cousin saidsimplesimon Jan 2018 #13

Everyone can discuss.. everyone can have an opinion mountain grammy Jan 2018 #14

I agree with that. I think in general medical decisions should be between a person and their doctor 47of74 Jan 2018 #18

As a 65-year-old male, my opinion on abortion MurrayDelph Jan 2018 #15

as an older women handmade34 Jan 2018 #89

Where does an MRA get his water? From a well, actually. HughBeaumont Jan 2018 #20

So I'm not allowed to say "keep it legal"? Or does this only apply to NEGATIVE opinions? Towlie Jan 2018 #25

AMEN!!!! K&R onecent Jan 2018 #26

as a guy, I completely agree... Javaman Jan 2018 #29

Missed opportunity, then. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #45

some people have asked me to elaborate... Javaman Jan 2018 #51

Quite true. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #53

Oh I know. My GF and I support Planned Parenthood and donate yearly. Javaman Jan 2018 #56

Awesome. Donation of choice for me as well. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #59

they do good work. Javaman Jan 2018 #69

Being a man, I once went to an abortion clinic, Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #30

Same Here ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #38

Opinion is fine. But it stops there. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #31

If you're truly interested in reducing the number of abortions shadowmayor Jan 2018 #33

And greatly improved access to contraception Orrex Jan 2018 #34

"if...interested in reducing...abortions...." handmade34 Jan 2018 #85

I tell people that if they don't believe in abortion, then don't have one. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #36

Maybe? briv1016 Jan 2018 #42

What comes out of a man's body... MineralMan Jan 2018 #57

State abortion restrictions/bans are nothing but state mandated indentured servitude laws. LonePirate Jan 2018 #77

I'd pay good money to see any rethug congressman give birth ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #88

Is it possible to be both pro choice and pro- life? Ohiogal Jan 2018 #109

Sure you can. Your a democrat. We have babies and love them. pwb Jan 2018 #115

Thanks PWB Ohiogal Jan 2018 #116

And what about pregnancies burrowowl Jan 2018 #112

Especially pro-choice liberals IronLionZion Jan 2018 #114