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Why aren't the Democrats really pounding away [View all] avebury Jan 2018 OP

I wonder why Dems MontanaMama Jan 2018 #1

And the tax scam dalton99a Jan 2018 #2

Oh yes. MontanaMama Jan 2018 #18

Once again, there IS messaging, constantly (which is also "repeatedly") George II Jan 2018 #87

You want an answer? -- Democratic leadership earthshine Jan 2018 #32

I tend to agree. MontanaMama Jan 2018 #45

yep. it's so tempting to focus like a laser on how horrible the GOPers are renate Jan 2018 #116

I agree 100% about Schumer n/t tikka Jan 2018 #49

The leadership is always the problem. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #110

WRONG! Democratic leadership does not do that, or think that. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #111

Your description fits my definition of "centrism." earthshine Jan 2018 #114

Thank you. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #117

Same here! Democrats today are far too passive. IMO they are totally ineffective in RKP5637 Jan 2018 #127

You need examples if you want to convince treestar Jan 2018 #132

I don't think LBJ or JFK, for example, would have put up with this bull of today. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #133

They did not have to, so we will never know treestar Jan 2018 #141

That's a good point. The outrageousness today is incredible. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #142

Then you have to go and BE the leadership treestar Jan 2018 #131

Since no one can unseat Pelosi and Schumer, your post is a whole lotta nothing. earthshine Jan 2018 #139

If they aren't good enough someone has to be elected to replace them treestar Jan 2018 #140

I agree with the things you write, but when you add it all up, the will of the voters is NOT respect earthshine Jan 2018 #144

Exactly! When will they realize that we want them to fight! smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #138

so sick of DUers swooning over Pelosi / Schumer Skittles Jan 2018 #145

Montana, because we don't want to DISTRACT. Hortensis Jan 2018 #63

Absolutely. When you have a gang that make the Keystone Kops look well organized, it's madinmaryland Jan 2018 #109

How would they do that, physically? Can any house member get on any news show anytime they want Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #64

We do shenmue Jan 2018 #76

They're reluctant to be tied to the morass, but they have to speak up. lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #3

Total crap...Dems are not complicit and are speaking out...I wish some would stop blaming Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #21

What? Democratic politicians who voted AGAINST the madness are complicit if they dont do WHAT? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #65

In a month or so, the election cycle will be ramping up... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #4

What would they pound? This is entirely new territory... TreasonousBastard Jan 2018 #5

How much dry powder do we need to keep? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #6

I don't usually see some on this thread with a good word to say about Democrats ever. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #22

...and some Dems are simply tired of losing. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #24

And some Dems who criticize the party and drive voters away cause losses. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #77

The party needs new blood and ideas in order to win. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #96

No we don't... while fresh ideas are always welcome...there are good ideas in the current party. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #121

Then get involved and do something treestar Jan 2018 #129

There is a group here, who do seem to bash dems routinely and I thought that was against Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #66

It is...and if you call them on it they could have trouble. But unless it is over the top, I don't Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #75

Let the news sink in for a bit and let the GOPers fight among themselves. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #7

They're taking the "moral high ground"... bluecollar2 Jan 2018 #8

And that always works out so well for them. avebury Jan 2018 #9

Like they took the moral highground doc03 Jan 2018 #31

Well, face it, if they did not treestar Jan 2018 #130

Banging head against wall just changes the wall. CK_John Jan 2018 #10

That's a losing strategy if I ever heard one. All Trump has to do is find an unscrupulous doctor who stevenleser Jan 2018 #11

What about the military doctor that is supposed avebury Jan 2018 #12

Even worse. A military doctor is examining his Commander in Chief. stevenleser Jan 2018 #16

Are you suggesting ANY doctor would violate patient confidentiality? jberryhill Jan 2018 #27

It is typical for the Drs to provide a brief avebury Jan 2018 #30

I can't imagine this happening fescuerescue Jan 2018 #147

Wondering same. nt cwydro Jan 2018 #13

What do you think Democrats are doing? ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #14

The problem is that very few Democrats NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #15

CNN has Democrats on all the time mcar Jan 2018 #35

Yeah I dont watch regular news so Im not seeing what people who do, see ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #53

They never learn from Republicans Thrill Jan 2018 #17

I expect that Pelosi will soon reassure us that impeachment is off the table. Orrex Jan 2018 #19

It's in a storge locker, out on the high road. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #25

Other progressives, including one who caucus with Dems mcar Jan 2018 #37

Didn't see that--thanks. Orrex Jan 2018 #39

Most of the replies on that thread mcar Jan 2018 #40

Fair enough Orrex Jan 2018 #41

pelosi "took impeachment off the table" for bush, too questionseverything Jan 2018 #57

Bernie also opposed impeachment of Bush JI7 Jan 2018 #98

He did? Why don't we have dozens of posts here mcar Jan 2018 #113

He can do anything, go on Fox News, etc. and that group will give him a pass. stevenleser Jan 2018 #143

He does go on Fox a lot mcar Jan 2018 #146

Message: He is not unfit - leave him alone - let him MAGA dalton99a Jan 2018 #73

I hope she does...If we regain the house and immediately push for impeachment, we are done GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #92

If we gain the House and we don't impeach him, then we are explicitly endorsing him Orrex Jan 2018 #102

But we will not stop him GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #103

Then that is the GOP Senate's failure Orrex Jan 2018 #105

I guess I will just respectfully disagree GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #106

Fair enough. We're still on the same side, after all! Orrex Jan 2018 #120

I will never understand the rabid support people have for her Skittles Jan 2018 #101

dems have offered a "better deal" does that sound like any kind of pounding? nt msongs Jan 2018 #20

Oh, yes. Counter with a PR-firm-generated slogan! regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #26

I wondered the same thing, but then I thought trashbag is doing a pretty good job at pounding Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #23

They know they will be attacked for conducting a political witch hunt. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Jan 2018 #29

ex post facto shanny Jan 2018 #33

Oh goody, another bash Dems thread mcar Jan 2018 #34

Yep. Scurrilous Jan 2018 #38

Yep, mcar... sheshe2 Jan 2018 #46

Exactly. Predictable AND tiresome. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #47

4 days in and there've been how many already? mcar Jan 2018 #61

I dont get it ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #60

Why don't they get credit for all they are doing? mcar Jan 2018 #62

+++ brer cat Jan 2018 #70

Yeah but its nooooooot enooouggghhhh RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #88

I see them on Twitter too mcar Jan 2018 #89

It is never enough for these folks...they simply don't like Democrats in my opinion. Surely they Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #118

Lots of the posts are using "they" when referring to Democrats. lapucelle Jan 2018 #95

+1 treestar Jan 2018 #123

Trump is not-too-slowly uncoiling more and more rope from which to hang himself with. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #36

Trying to stay warm by the Trumpster fire blazing out of control? WyattKansas Jan 2018 #42

A couple of reasons come to mind onenote Jan 2018 #43

Because the high ground. Hong Kong Cavalier Jan 2018 #44

When our enemy is self-destructing, why interfere? yardwork Jan 2018 #48

Mueller. (no text) sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #56

If Trump leaves too soon, then the Republicans will say that the problem is solved. yardwork Jan 2018 #59

The BIg 'I' word is not doable, '25' isn't either. sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #82

I totally agree Iahotdog Jan 2018 #84

*This* brer cat Jan 2018 #97

ooohhhh.....rather that bashing GOPes, lets bash Dems...awesome thread!! BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #50

Thanks for reminding us what blind loyalty looks like. earthshine Jan 2018 #52

Nothing is stopping any Dem from voicing their concerns as described in the OP BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #55

You really don't make any sense here. earthshine Jan 2018 #68

You don't like that someone else is *not* saying something? BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #74

Okay, enough of you. You really don't understand the OP. nt earthshine Jan 2018 #80

I understood it just fine.....Trump having a horrid week so bash Dems nt BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #94

There was no "blind loyalty" in Cha Jan 2018 #67

It is probably the other way round treestar Jan 2018 #124

Dems: want a blue wave in 18? 20? HAB911 Jan 2018 #51

Hellboy has spoken and I agree! earthshine Jan 2018 #69

Lots in this thread see this as bashing Democrats. I see it as a request for republican bashing. Squinch Jan 2018 #54

It's a bashing thread...no matter how you see it. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #79

Well... that sure convinces me! Squinch Jan 2018 #91

I am not trying to convince you...just stating it as I see it...those who engage in criticizing Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #122

Motives are important, the problem is we dont seem to have learned much Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #83

To elect Democrats, we need messaging. We suck at messaging. Republicans wipe the floor Squinch Jan 2018 #90

This has been said for ages treestar Jan 2018 #125

I agree, and we have yet to work out a way around that. Squinch Jan 2018 #134

Has to be done right zipplewrath Jan 2018 #58

I think they should stick to what he actually does and not make it personal. alarimer Jan 2018 #71

You don't think they have? Did you see Blumenthal just minutes ago on CNN.... George II Jan 2018 #72

People who think the Democrats aren't doing anything are the same ones who think that Hillary... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #99

+1,000,000 George II Jan 2018 #100

+1 betsuni Jan 2018 #108

Plus they never think that the strategy they want treestar Jan 2018 #126

Trump seems to be pounding it pretty good C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #78

democrats want trump to stay and destroy AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #85

That is just not the case. If it were, the dems would be just as dangerous as the GOP. They aren't. Squinch Jan 2018 #135

not quite AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #136

You may be right that this is their attitude, but if it is then therein lies our problem. Squinch Jan 2018 #137

Because Democrats right now are like barking dogs, Oneironaut Jan 2018 #86

The're waiting to see if Pence is implicated in the corruption. lapucelle Jan 2018 #93

Dems are concentrating on First Priorities peggysue2 Jan 2018 #104

We're hanging all our hopes on Mueller, when it doesn't matter ecstatic Jan 2018 #107

They have been for a year. Clinton did and many blamed her for doing so as the reason for loss. Anny61 Jan 2018 #112

+1 betsuni Jan 2018 #119

They need to start POUNDING AWAY NOW with the bullshit that these used scumbag Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #115

K&R!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #128