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42. You are not merely disparaging the lawyers, you're lying about them.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 11:32 AM
Jan 2018

In post number 3, you stated that the Democratic candidate's lawyer agreed to count the disputed vote for her opponent.

That is a blatantly false statement that, for reasons that remain unclear, you refuse to acknowledge as, at very least, mistaken. When you stand by a mistaken statement after you know its wrong, that statement becomes a lie.

Now you're trying to pivot to the argument that her lawyers "obviously did not do their job particularly well" because the court, made up of three Republican judges, agreed over the Democrats objections to consider a late-filed claim by the republicans arguing that the vote, which the republican recount official had agreed shouldn't be counted, should now be counted and that same panel of judges subsequently refused to reconsider their decision to count the vote.

Since you think its "obvious" that the lawyers didn't do a good job because they lost, you presumably also think that Al Gore's lawyers didn't do a good job in Bush v. Gore and that there was some compelling argument that they failed to make that would have persuaded the republicans on the Supreme Court to rule in favor of Gore. I think we'd all love to know what that argument was.

And I'd like to know what argument you think Shelly Simonds lawyers should have made that would have altered the outcome of the case. (Presumably you're familiar with the arguments that were made -- you can read the brief online).
(By the way, the law firm representing Simonds in this matter is the same law firm that has won three challenges to gerrymandering at the Supreme Court -- not too shabby).

Again, it's curiouser and curiouser as to why you are attacking the attorneys for Shelly Simonds and, by association, her.

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Wouldn't count the votes for Governor or House of Delegates. sinkingfeeling Jan 2018 #1
Exactly SCantiGOP Jan 2018 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling Jan 2018 #2
That vote is invalid Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #3
if true that her lawyer agreed to this (There is a problem) bluestarone Jan 2018 #4
That ballot was reinstated by the court, NOT either candidate or election board or any attorneys. George II Jan 2018 #61
What is your basis for claiming her lawyer agreed to it? You should self-delete. onenote Jan 2018 #5
Are you the post- police? Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #6
No, I'm not the post-police. But its odd that you wont delete a post that falsely slams Democrats. onenote Jan 2018 #7
I don't see it as a slam at all RandomAccess Jan 2018 #25
You don't see it as a slam to falsely accuse the Democratic candidate's lawyers onenote Jan 2018 #30
No, not a slam RandomAccess Jan 2018 #40
And when the poster stands by that claim after its pointed out it is false? What is that? onenote Jan 2018 #41
Not capitulating to you. Obviously. RandomAccess Jan 2018 #43
Here. You can read the description of the recount process. onenote Jan 2018 #49
As I said, RandomAccess Jan 2018 #64
I can show you all of the posts in this thread onenote Jan 2018 #65
First of all, Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #27
I"m not insinuating anything. I just wonder why you're standing by a false statement about onenote Jan 2018 #29
Maybe you don't understand an over vote Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #31
It was thrown out. And her lawyers argued that was the right decision. onenote Jan 2018 #32
Are you one of her lawyers? Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #33
No. Just someone offended by a false attack on those lawyers. onenote Jan 2018 #34
See AL Franken Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #36
are you posting in the wrong thread? onenote Jan 2018 #38
You are a self purported crusader against false statements made about Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #39
You are not merely disparaging the lawyers, you're lying about them. onenote Jan 2018 #42
Yeah, I think Gore's lawyers did a shitty job Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #44
So now you've started to lie about me. I should alert, but I'll give you a chance to explain onenote Jan 2018 #46
This is what is wrong with the Democrats Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #50
Okay then. I see where you're coming from. onenote Jan 2018 #51
Uh huh, except my way, the way my grandfather taught us Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #52
And I don't know whether you're a Democrat onenote Jan 2018 #62
Franken was a good Senator Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #63
The enemy is not on this thread, the enemy is in the WH and everywhere else Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #66
Where did you hear her lawyer "agreed this?" ehrnst Jan 2018 #67
I would have to say the voters attempt was for Yancy RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #8
Unfortunately, I agree. Tracer Jan 2018 #9
I do too alarimer Jan 2018 #10
Disagree - The fact that there are weird cross marks for the Republican Governor choice makes it stevenleser Jan 2018 #11
Had they attempted to vote for anyone else in the guv race.... RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #13
In this case the voter should have made it more clear. I recall seeing a photo of a ballot like this stevenleser Jan 2018 #15
But why? The voter also put lines through the vote for Gillespie. Did that not count? pnwmom Jan 2018 #16
But they didnt shade in anyone else either RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #19
That's possible. It's also possible that the single line drawn through the Democrats pnwmom Jan 2018 #21
your theory about the slash being there to draw attention to voters preferred intent is possible questionseverything Jan 2018 #58
There is a simple fix atreides1 Jan 2018 #53
You say yourself. It's possible. You're speculating. kcr Jan 2018 #54
Its an overvote. Ballot should have been tossed. BannonsLiver Jan 2018 #18
It's an over vote ballot Cosmocat Jan 2018 #23
As I noted before, and essentially called a troll for it Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #28
You got called out because you made a baseless claim kcr Jan 2018 #55
Nah, they're milquetoast Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #57
Agreed. I think the people who are disagreeing are looking at the outcome of the particular vote mythology Jan 2018 #35
Wow! This is quite a story. lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #12
It really shouldnt be BannonsLiver Jan 2018 #17
If thats the law then yes RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #20
THIS Cosmocat Jan 2018 #24
Depends on how you define "Vote for only one." L. Coyote Jan 2018 #14
A computer would have automatically tossed that as an overvote. pnwmom Jan 2018 #22
I think when voter intent is absolutely clear the ballot should count. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #47
I agree. But the intent of that ballot is anything but clear. nt pnwmom Jan 2018 #56
Agreed. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #60
The voter chose her first.... Historic NY Jan 2018 #26
no bdamomma Jan 2018 #37
Poorly designed ballot Madam Mossfern Jan 2018 #48
Oval filled in for two candidates in same race with a line in both. WyattKansas Jan 2018 #59
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