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NurseJackie

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99. People who think the Democrats aren't doing anything are the same ones who think that Hillary...

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:10 PM

Jan 2018

People who think the Democrats aren't doing anything are the same ones who think that Hillary didn't have a message, or that she was a weak candidate, or that she had no vision.

People who think the Democrats aren't doing anything aren't paying attention. Or, they're living in a Sarandonesque world where they feel the need to burn it down and start over. Or, they're too immature and too impatient to realize that what they want to happen will not happen overnight.

It's very naive of them to believe that simply because they WANT something, they can have it (provided they whine long enough and trash Democrats loud enough).

Unfortunately, the constant trashing and demeaning of the Democratic party and Democratic politicians only serves to WEAKEN and DIMINISH the party. Their attacks only SLOW DOWN the arrival of the thing they want so much.

Pity they don't see that. But, I suppose they DO get a lot of self-satisfaction and gratification from having these regularly-scheduled temper tantrums. (Sigh.)

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Why aren't the Democrats really pounding away [View all] avebury Jan 2018 OP

I wonder why Dems MontanaMama Jan 2018 #1

And the tax scam dalton99a Jan 2018 #2

Oh yes. MontanaMama Jan 2018 #18

Once again, there IS messaging, constantly (which is also "repeatedly") George II Jan 2018 #87

You want an answer? -- Democratic leadership earthshine Jan 2018 #32

I tend to agree. MontanaMama Jan 2018 #45

yep. it's so tempting to focus like a laser on how horrible the GOPers are renate Jan 2018 #116

I agree 100% about Schumer n/t tikka Jan 2018 #49

The leadership is always the problem. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #110

WRONG! Democratic leadership does not do that, or think that. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #111

Your description fits my definition of "centrism." earthshine Jan 2018 #114

Thank you. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #117

Same here! Democrats today are far too passive. IMO they are totally ineffective in RKP5637 Jan 2018 #127

You need examples if you want to convince treestar Jan 2018 #132

I don't think LBJ or JFK, for example, would have put up with this bull of today. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #133

They did not have to, so we will never know treestar Jan 2018 #141

That's a good point. The outrageousness today is incredible. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #142

Then you have to go and BE the leadership treestar Jan 2018 #131

Since no one can unseat Pelosi and Schumer, your post is a whole lotta nothing. earthshine Jan 2018 #139

If they aren't good enough someone has to be elected to replace them treestar Jan 2018 #140

I agree with the things you write, but when you add it all up, the will of the voters is NOT respect earthshine Jan 2018 #144

Exactly! When will they realize that we want them to fight! smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #138

so sick of DUers swooning over Pelosi / Schumer Skittles Jan 2018 #145

Montana, because we don't want to DISTRACT. Hortensis Jan 2018 #63

Absolutely. When you have a gang that make the Keystone Kops look well organized, it's madinmaryland Jan 2018 #109

How would they do that, physically? Can any house member get on any news show anytime they want Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #64

We do shenmue Jan 2018 #76

They're reluctant to be tied to the morass, but they have to speak up. lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #3

Total crap...Dems are not complicit and are speaking out...I wish some would stop blaming Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #21

What? Democratic politicians who voted AGAINST the madness are complicit if they dont do WHAT? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #65

In a month or so, the election cycle will be ramping up... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #4

What would they pound? This is entirely new territory... TreasonousBastard Jan 2018 #5

How much dry powder do we need to keep? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #6

I don't usually see some on this thread with a good word to say about Democrats ever. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #22

...and some Dems are simply tired of losing. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #24

And some Dems who criticize the party and drive voters away cause losses. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #77

The party needs new blood and ideas in order to win. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #96

No we don't... while fresh ideas are always welcome...there are good ideas in the current party. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #121

Then get involved and do something treestar Jan 2018 #129

There is a group here, who do seem to bash dems routinely and I thought that was against Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #66

It is...and if you call them on it they could have trouble. But unless it is over the top, I don't Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #75

Let the news sink in for a bit and let the GOPers fight among themselves. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #7

They're taking the "moral high ground"... bluecollar2 Jan 2018 #8

And that always works out so well for them. avebury Jan 2018 #9

Like they took the moral highground doc03 Jan 2018 #31

Well, face it, if they did not treestar Jan 2018 #130

Banging head against wall just changes the wall. CK_John Jan 2018 #10

That's a losing strategy if I ever heard one. All Trump has to do is find an unscrupulous doctor who stevenleser Jan 2018 #11

What about the military doctor that is supposed avebury Jan 2018 #12

Even worse. A military doctor is examining his Commander in Chief. stevenleser Jan 2018 #16

Are you suggesting ANY doctor would violate patient confidentiality? jberryhill Jan 2018 #27

It is typical for the Drs to provide a brief avebury Jan 2018 #30

I can't imagine this happening fescuerescue Jan 2018 #147

Wondering same. nt cwydro Jan 2018 #13

What do you think Democrats are doing? ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #14

The problem is that very few Democrats NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #15

CNN has Democrats on all the time mcar Jan 2018 #35

Yeah I dont watch regular news so Im not seeing what people who do, see ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #53

They never learn from Republicans Thrill Jan 2018 #17

I expect that Pelosi will soon reassure us that impeachment is off the table. Orrex Jan 2018 #19

It's in a storge locker, out on the high road. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #25

Other progressives, including one who caucus with Dems mcar Jan 2018 #37

Didn't see that--thanks. Orrex Jan 2018 #39

Most of the replies on that thread mcar Jan 2018 #40

Fair enough Orrex Jan 2018 #41

pelosi "took impeachment off the table" for bush, too questionseverything Jan 2018 #57

Bernie also opposed impeachment of Bush JI7 Jan 2018 #98

He did? Why don't we have dozens of posts here mcar Jan 2018 #113

He can do anything, go on Fox News, etc. and that group will give him a pass. stevenleser Jan 2018 #143

He does go on Fox a lot mcar Jan 2018 #146

Message: He is not unfit - leave him alone - let him MAGA dalton99a Jan 2018 #73

I hope she does...If we regain the house and immediately push for impeachment, we are done GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #92

If we gain the House and we don't impeach him, then we are explicitly endorsing him Orrex Jan 2018 #102

But we will not stop him GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #103

Then that is the GOP Senate's failure Orrex Jan 2018 #105

I guess I will just respectfully disagree GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #106

Fair enough. We're still on the same side, after all! Orrex Jan 2018 #120

I will never understand the rabid support people have for her Skittles Jan 2018 #101

dems have offered a "better deal" does that sound like any kind of pounding? nt msongs Jan 2018 #20

Oh, yes. Counter with a PR-firm-generated slogan! regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #26

I wondered the same thing, but then I thought trashbag is doing a pretty good job at pounding Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #23

They know they will be attacked for conducting a political witch hunt. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Jan 2018 #29

ex post facto shanny Jan 2018 #33

Oh goody, another bash Dems thread mcar Jan 2018 #34

Yep. Scurrilous Jan 2018 #38

Yep, mcar... sheshe2 Jan 2018 #46

Exactly. Predictable AND tiresome. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #47

4 days in and there've been how many already? mcar Jan 2018 #61

I dont get it ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #60

Why don't they get credit for all they are doing? mcar Jan 2018 #62

+++ brer cat Jan 2018 #70

Yeah but its nooooooot enooouggghhhh RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #88

I see them on Twitter too mcar Jan 2018 #89

It is never enough for these folks...they simply don't like Democrats in my opinion. Surely they Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #118

Lots of the posts are using "they" when referring to Democrats. lapucelle Jan 2018 #95

+1 treestar Jan 2018 #123

Trump is not-too-slowly uncoiling more and more rope from which to hang himself with. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #36

Trying to stay warm by the Trumpster fire blazing out of control? WyattKansas Jan 2018 #42

A couple of reasons come to mind onenote Jan 2018 #43

Because the high ground. Hong Kong Cavalier Jan 2018 #44

When our enemy is self-destructing, why interfere? yardwork Jan 2018 #48

Mueller. (no text) sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #56

If Trump leaves too soon, then the Republicans will say that the problem is solved. yardwork Jan 2018 #59

The BIg 'I' word is not doable, '25' isn't either. sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #82

I totally agree Iahotdog Jan 2018 #84

*This* brer cat Jan 2018 #97

ooohhhh.....rather that bashing GOPes, lets bash Dems...awesome thread!! BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #50

Thanks for reminding us what blind loyalty looks like. earthshine Jan 2018 #52

Nothing is stopping any Dem from voicing their concerns as described in the OP BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #55

You really don't make any sense here. earthshine Jan 2018 #68

You don't like that someone else is *not* saying something? BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #74

Okay, enough of you. You really don't understand the OP. nt earthshine Jan 2018 #80

I understood it just fine.....Trump having a horrid week so bash Dems nt BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #94

There was no "blind loyalty" in Cha Jan 2018 #67

It is probably the other way round treestar Jan 2018 #124

Dems: want a blue wave in 18? 20? HAB911 Jan 2018 #51

Hellboy has spoken and I agree! earthshine Jan 2018 #69

Lots in this thread see this as bashing Democrats. I see it as a request for republican bashing. Squinch Jan 2018 #54

It's a bashing thread...no matter how you see it. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #79

Well... that sure convinces me! Squinch Jan 2018 #91

I am not trying to convince you...just stating it as I see it...those who engage in criticizing Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #122

Motives are important, the problem is we dont seem to have learned much Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #83

To elect Democrats, we need messaging. We suck at messaging. Republicans wipe the floor Squinch Jan 2018 #90

This has been said for ages treestar Jan 2018 #125

I agree, and we have yet to work out a way around that. Squinch Jan 2018 #134

Has to be done right zipplewrath Jan 2018 #58

I think they should stick to what he actually does and not make it personal. alarimer Jan 2018 #71

You don't think they have? Did you see Blumenthal just minutes ago on CNN.... George II Jan 2018 #72

People who think the Democrats aren't doing anything are the same ones who think that Hillary... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #99

+1,000,000 George II Jan 2018 #100

+1 betsuni Jan 2018 #108

Plus they never think that the strategy they want treestar Jan 2018 #126

Trump seems to be pounding it pretty good C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #78

democrats want trump to stay and destroy AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #85

That is just not the case. If it were, the dems would be just as dangerous as the GOP. They aren't. Squinch Jan 2018 #135

not quite AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #136

You may be right that this is their attitude, but if it is then therein lies our problem. Squinch Jan 2018 #137

Because Democrats right now are like barking dogs, Oneironaut Jan 2018 #86

The're waiting to see if Pence is implicated in the corruption. lapucelle Jan 2018 #93

Dems are concentrating on First Priorities peggysue2 Jan 2018 #104

We're hanging all our hopes on Mueller, when it doesn't matter ecstatic Jan 2018 #107

They have been for a year. Clinton did and many blamed her for doing so as the reason for loss. Anny61 Jan 2018 #112

+1 betsuni Jan 2018 #119

They need to start POUNDING AWAY NOW with the bullshit that these used scumbag Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #115

K&R!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #128