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MichMan

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187. California and Washington have much higher gas taxes

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 03:25 PM

Jan 2018

California has gas takes of 38 cents/gal (+2.25 % sales tax) while Washington has 49 cents/gal. Oregon has a gas tax of 31 cents/gal.

You would expect that Oregon would be 13 cents per gallon cheaper than California and 18 cents/gal cheaper than Washington. There are probably other factors that make the cost of doing business more or less between those states.

I don't know why people think having extra employees on staff that require wages, payroll taxes, workman's comp and unemployment taxes somehow aren't passed on to the consumer.

Again, if people want to pay extra $ for full serve than no one will frequent the self serve stations. In every single other state, no one wanted to pay extra and they stopped offering it .

Full serve is still allowed and if customers prefer it, it won't be going anywhere. I don't understand not allowing those who would rather fill their own tanks the option of patronizing those stations like in 48 other states

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Oregon now lets people pump their own gas and some Oregonians are losing their minds over it [View all] mfcorey1 Jan 2018 OP

It will be OK. The rest of US have been doing it for decades. democratisphere Jan 2018 #1

It took me a long time to get used to pumping murielm99 Jan 2018 #2

That's funny Cosmocat Jan 2018 #13

Trying doing the reverse, except have a couple of toddlers in your car, and it's 10 degrees outside. pnwmom Jan 2018 #132

lol Cosmocat Jan 2018 #133

Parents of babies and young children, the elderly and disabled, and anyone in bad weather pnwmom Jan 2018 #131

The article doesnt explain that the new law is for 15 rural counties. MissB Jan 2018 #3

So this is not state wide? sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #7

It was really only implemented for convenience of rural MissB Jan 2018 #19

The profit is not at the pump sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #40

why can't gas stations make a profit from gas? Mosby Jan 2018 #46

At least around here.. sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #49

Same thing with movie theaters Nevernose Jan 2018 #99

Gas stations have never made a profit from gas jmowreader Jan 2018 #102

Exxon made a 3.4 billion profit in JUST the second Quarter Mosby Jan 2018 #117

Not on the retail part of the business MichMan Jan 2018 #119

"The gas stations and the public are getting screwed." EX500rider Jan 2018 #129

that's net profit Mosby Jan 2018 #143

Isn't all profit net ? MichMan Jan 2018 #147

no Mosby Jan 2018 #155

Don't have to sell below cost. EX500rider Jan 2018 #154

Here is Exxon's profit center jmowreader Jan 2018 #161

It's only rural counties east of the Cascades and it's only between 6 at night and OregonBlue Jan 2018 #41

I prefer to do things myself. christx30 Jan 2018 #42

I live in Oregon -- have for 30 years. KPN Jan 2018 #64

Lived here a few years now askyagerz Jan 2018 #85

Buggy Whips Union 101 local, represent! n/t X_Digger Jan 2018 #162

Full servise stations do more than just pump gas, Smickey Jan 2018 #92

Getting to talk to someone is not a selling point. christx30 Jan 2018 #115

I like it to. I never have them do the whole routine but since I live in ranch/farm country, my OregonBlue Jan 2018 #176

What? pwb Jan 2018 #104

I find the gas station attendants polite, respectful, efficient and I can stay in the car. Shrike47 Jan 2018 #110

Lots of people do. I love the fact that we employ lots of people in these jobs. They are actually OregonBlue Jan 2018 #175

You are paying extra for full serve MichMan Jan 2018 #183

We pay higher gas prices in Oregon, Washington, and California. We also have much OregonBlue Jan 2018 #185

California and Washington have much higher gas taxes MichMan Jan 2018 #187

I'd pay more to go to a full service pump if I could. LisaM Jan 2018 #106

The vast majority of drivers won't however MichMan Jan 2018 #120

Yes, I don't get it either. What's a couple of cents a gallon when it could be a job? LisaM Jan 2018 #128

Most stations will have someone come out during daytime hours and pump it if you are disabled MichMan Jan 2018 #130

In California you can push a button Codeine Jan 2018 #151

I worked at the first self serve in my home town Soxfan58 Jan 2018 #4

"Gas will be cheaper! " DiverDave Jan 2018 #5

When we still had both Full and self serve stations here full was about a dime more a gallon. Lee-Lee Jan 2018 #9

nope. won't be cheaper DiverDave Jan 2018 #11

It Sure Was Around Here, Dave ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #87

NJ does not allow you to pump gas crazycatlady Jan 2018 #22

...because they have a very low gas tax. brooklynite Jan 2018 #107

Always amazed me that NJ didn't trust it's citizens to pump petrol. ileus Jan 2018 #6

The first time I drove into NJ I had no idea what the law was there Lee-Lee Jan 2018 #8

I live in Pa Cosmocat Jan 2018 #14

Full serve is a misnomer these days SoCalNative Jan 2018 #16

I don't prefer it at all. marybourg Jan 2018 #36

Yeah, after a couple explosions, they did it. The oil lobby drives the self-pumping to make $$$. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #43

Most all gas stations are owned by individuals MichMan Jan 2018 #50

Not in NJ or neighboring states. Oil companies only give a penny or two per gallon to the stations. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #55

Are you positive? MichMan Jan 2018 #62

Read my updated post above. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #66

I don't know about where you are at, but in Michigan louis-t Jan 2018 #63

NJ. We have aggreessive state Weights and Measures & Consumer Protection departments. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #69

That is not why they slow down Amishman Jan 2018 #121

Bull. They don't slow down at $19.85, they slow down at louis-t Jan 2018 #158

Oregon's not goofy -- just weird KPN Jan 2018 #67

We have vote by mail too. We're much more progressive than the rest of the US. jalan48 Jan 2018 #73

We visited Oregon for the first time this summer. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #10

I live in Oregon. Disagree with your KPN Jan 2018 #71

It may have been the part of the state we were in. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #97

I'm hugely grateful that we have one full-serve place in my MA town Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #12

My mom can't figure it out so one of us 'kids' fills her car for her Maeve Jan 2018 #35

I think it was a town by town roll out here in MA during the late 80's or early 90's Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #39

My dad never pumped gas Freddie Jan 2018 #140

My daughter in the Boston suburbs likes her gas pumped by an attendant. CTyankee Jan 2018 #44

This is only in counties with less than 40,000 people oberliner Jan 2018 #15

They're running the story to slag on Oregonians gratuitous Jan 2018 #18

Because it's a human-interest story maxsolomon Jan 2018 #65

Lol. Yeah, there's a little neighborhood KPN Jan 2018 #169

Because some of the quotes are hysterically Codeine Jan 2018 #77

I refuse to bag my own groceries HAB911 Jan 2018 #17

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #23

I'm not lazy HAB911 Jan 2018 #24

Yeah, you are lazy bathroommonkey76 Jan 2018 #25

The corporation has you doing their bidding HAB911 Jan 2018 #26

Best way to rationalize our sloth and laziness is to rebuke the corporation LanternWaste Jan 2018 #70

I fully support your right to do the employees jobs HAB911 Jan 2018 #72

Now you are calling him or her lazy JonLP24 Jan 2018 #170

Probably a moot point anyway HAB911 Jan 2018 #28

No, it is about businesses making their customers do the work DLevine Jan 2018 #27

my supermarket hires disabled people from a local group home to do the bagging CTyankee Jan 2018 #45

When was the last time you demanded an Operator place your phone calls? brooklynite Jan 2018 #108

funny story HAB911 Jan 2018 #111

I remember the good old days before ATM and Debit cards MichMan Jan 2018 #112

Assuming a commercial bank is where you go HAB911 Jan 2018 #114

All people care about is who has the lowest price MichMan Jan 2018 #118

I know HAB911 Jan 2018 #124

Are there really people upset about this? bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #20

It's lovely janterry Jan 2018 #30

Yep, special snowflakes on facebook complaining they have some screen shots at the link snooper2 Jan 2018 #48

Have you ever in your life had to get gas pnwmom Jan 2018 #135

I have been in the first one, and essentially the second bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #137

Why would you want to pay as much or even more for no service? pnwmom Jan 2018 #138

I like doing things on my own bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #139

Ask the people in the other 49 states MichMan Jan 2018 #145

Nobody is prohibiting full serve MichMan Jan 2018 #142

Yeah, right. The end result will be that customers of full serve will pay more. pnwmom Jan 2018 #144

Got it; gas prices are always fixed and never go up and down for any other reason. MichMan Jan 2018 #148

That sucks, but gas is more expensive in Oregon than almost every state. bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #150

OR has higher gas taxes than KPN Jan 2018 #166

No they dont. Right on the National average of all 50 states MichMan Jan 2018 #188

Damn - you caught me! KPN Jan 2018 #190

If NJ ever did this there'd be riots in the streets crazycatlady Jan 2018 #21

lol, moved from NJ to NC last year and my wife still hasn't pumped gas Jersey Devil Jan 2018 #134

Lol. Funny! KPN Jan 2018 #167

Wonder how the other 48 states manage to survive MichMan Jan 2018 #149

It is part of NJ's culture crazycatlady Jan 2018 #153

I don't want to waste time waiting MichMan Jan 2018 #29

It can be much quicker janterry Jan 2018 #31

Me too. Also, I don't want someone taking my credit card inside Ilsa Jan 2018 #33

Like drive-thru windows LanternWaste Jan 2018 #75

How is payment made at full service? Ilsa Jan 2018 #32

Its still largely pay at the pump MissB Jan 2018 #37

I feel much more "unsafe" handing my credit card to some guy... Atman Jan 2018 #80

I agree. I don't even like doing it at restaurants. Ilsa Jan 2018 #116

That's not how it works in any place i've KPN Jan 2018 #168

Back in the old days, when I was a gas pump jockey, MineralMan Jan 2018 #186

I used to balance those sales slips when the registers and Ilsa Jan 2018 #189

thank gawd..it was a mess driving thru oregon and.... samnsara Jan 2018 #34

Millions of shoes will be ruined dalton99a Jan 2018 #38

I live in WA state and just want to say that i know a couple of guys AmandaRuth Jan 2018 #47

I like not having to pump my own gas. Nothing like gas dripping on your shoes to start the day. jalan48 Jan 2018 #51

Been pumping my own for 40 yrs MichMan Jan 2018 #53

What do older folks do in pump your gas states? jalan48 Jan 2018 #61

Pump their own gas. Codeine Jan 2018 #79

Generally, this is true. For some pushing the nozzle into the tank would be difficult I would think. jalan48 Jan 2018 #83

At which point one might question the wisdom Codeine Jan 2018 #84

And you probably can't smell it on your hands, if you're like my hubby. pnwmom Jan 2018 #141

I've never gotten gas on my clothes. I've been pumping my own gas for decades. The fears about this SweetieD Jan 2018 #54

Seriously. I'm a huge klutz and I've never gotten gas on myself. Neema Jan 2018 #58

Exactly. I have the eye-hand coordination Codeine Jan 2018 #81

I got my shoes soaked when I once brilliantly tried to top off, top off, top off... VOX Jan 2018 #123

I guess I need more time on the job. jalan48 Jan 2018 #59

I frequently commute between northern Oregon and southern California MurrayDelph Jan 2018 #74

Im nearly fifty years old Codeine Jan 2018 #78

some of the comments on Facebook were hysterical NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #52

Hillarious infidel621 Jan 2018 #56

Yeesh! Ohiogal Jan 2018 #57

A significant number of posters here Codeine Jan 2018 #86

Next McDonalds will "let" you fry your own burger. Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #60

Or favors washing their own car LanternWaste Jan 2018 #76

Yes. Much better that some other, lesser person Codeine Jan 2018 #82

My Mother, who still drove in her 90's....(a Triple Democrat) northoftheborder Jan 2018 #89

In California, self-serve stations MurrayDelph Jan 2018 #178

Maybe his only alternative is the homeless encampment at the edge of town. Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #91

Im not calling him lesser, Codeine Jan 2018 #93

So when the lineman who goes out to restore your power in a storm, would you rather do it yourself? Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #94

A lineman performs a skilled task for fair remuneration. Codeine Jan 2018 #96

:shrug: Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #100

Lazy has nothing to do with it. KPN Jan 2018 #172

It just dawned on me: You seem to imply that only the "skilled" deserve jobs. nt Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #177

I imply no such thing. You may infer what youd like Codeine Jan 2018 #179

You kmean I'm using "fake logic"? :) nt Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #180

I wouldnt credit you with using logic of any sort, sir. nt Codeine Jan 2018 #181

So in the last two posts you call me "dishonest", "intellectually weak" and "illogical". Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #184

Good post. KPN Jan 2018 #171

When it has come up for a vote in the past it was pushed by Republicans here in Oregon. jalan48 Jan 2018 #88

Of course. Destroy jobs. Take money from the poor and give it to the rich. That the Republican way. Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #95

I agree with what you say. I failed to mention that big oil also promoted pump you own gas. jalan48 Jan 2018 #98

Next you'll have to make your own pizza!... PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #103

This sounds like bullshit hyperbole to me. still_one Jan 2018 #68

My Chevy Bolt lets me drive past the OIL CORPORATIONS nolabels Jan 2018 #90

My wife still won't pump her own gas. And there hasn't been a "full service" station around here Liberal In Texas Jan 2018 #101

Some of you are from Oregon...can anyone answer this question? jmowreader Jan 2018 #105

Yes you can. MissB Jan 2018 #109

I like having someone doing the job. snort Jan 2018 #113

Then continue to use full serve MichMan Jan 2018 #122

That's what is so funny about this whole "argument." Atman Jan 2018 #125

You don't understand Oregonians. They don't want to pay extra for full-serve Sneederbunk Jan 2018 #127

No, I guess I don't understand. Atman Jan 2018 #136

They appear to already be paying 18 cents a gallon extra for full serve MichMan Jan 2018 #164

They will then raise the price on full serve. Right now full serve in Oregon pnwmom Jan 2018 #160

They are already paying 18 cents a gallon extra in Oregon MichMan Jan 2018 #163

Oregon is about 11 cents cheaper. But you're dreaming if you think that after Oregon stations pnwmom Jan 2018 #165

So, do these pump attendants MontanaMama Jan 2018 #126

I am on the Oregon coast Loryn Jan 2018 #146

If everyone in Oregon wants full service Codeine Jan 2018 #152

I don't think everyone in Oregon does, but I can't speak for everyone. Loryn Jan 2018 #156

He's not. Because the coastal counties KPN Jan 2018 #173

If I had a choice MontanaMama Jan 2018 #157

I always thought Oregonians lucky that they didn't have to pump their gas pnwmom Jan 2018 #159

All you you who think you are not paying more for full service are in denial Lee-Lee Jan 2018 #174

As a refugee from NJ, I understand those who are unhappy with the loss of full service gas stations karynnj Jan 2018 #182