OK I give up... It's like talking to a brick wall. When's the next mass shooting scheduled?

[CTyankee]

2. You get to that point with these zealots. But I am seeing something break through this time.

I think the gunners are starting to lose the argument. I saw a very intelligent interview this morning with Mike Bloomberg. He was mad as hell and not listening to any excuses. He wants our president and his opponent to start talking leadership on the subject.

Others have been urging more action from the voters, pushback on the NRA.

Some of the gunners here are sensing that. There is a mood shift out there. People have had enough. I think the tipping point has been reached.

You just have temporary tiredness with these people. Don't despair. For the first time I'm sensing gunners on the run. They are losing and they know it...