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NickB79

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72. Because it's not illegal to buy 6,000 rd of ammo or 1-2 guns/month like he did

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:42 PM

Jul 2012

You can buy thousands of rounds of ammo at one time in most Walmarts, let alone a sporting goods store or online.

If the credit card company was suspicious of the transactions, they'd call the cardholder, ask him "did you make these purchases?" and when he says yes, that's the end of it. He didn't break any laws at the time, so the credit card company had no obligation to contact law enforcement.

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How did this grad student buy all these weapons- with what money? [View all] Tumbulu Jul 2012 OP

If you are going to do something that may end your life credit cards can pay for a lot and Lint Head Jul 2012 #1

That is true, I never think of using Tumbulu Jul 2012 #3

They're not particularly cheap Scootaloo Jul 2012 #2

Pell Grant...Oh wait! cbrer Jul 2012 #4

Maybe $5K. Maxed out his VISA, most likely. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #5

His car looked pretty nice. His folks are upper middle class. maybe he had savings. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #78

4-5G's, maybe more... bluedigger Jul 2012 #6

Do students have all this money? Tumbulu Jul 2012 #15

They give credit cards to high schoolers, don't they? bluedigger Jul 2012 #17

Are you serious- Really? Tumbulu Jul 2012 #18

I had no trouble getting credit cards TBF Jul 2012 #38

When I walked into my dorm room freshman year, there was a ton of stuff waiting for me. Brickbat Jul 2012 #45

One of the things you'll see on most university campuses every fall... Posteritatis Jul 2012 #54

hand gubs and shotguns are pretty cheap rdking647 Jul 2012 #7

He bought all the weapons new from big box stores. bluedigger Jul 2012 #8

You won't find guns or ammo on Ebay Kennah Jul 2012 #28

I guess that's why I said he bought them from big box stores. bluedigger Jul 2012 #37

Sporting Goods stores from what I have seen ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #43

Are we going to parse every word? bluedigger Jul 2012 #50

Meeting the stringent requirements of Fans' Only definitions LanternWaste Jul 2012 #59

Accuracy matters ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #74

so cheap! Why are these things so cheap? Tumbulu Jul 2012 #9

Yes. The losses are socialized. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #12

yes, it seems that way Tumbulu Jul 2012 #14

Good question. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #21

Guns and ammo are taxed already. krispos42 Jul 2012 #85

Very interesting perspective (and true also) - might be worth coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #26

My solution to the gun issue (not really mine, another DUer thought of it) is JDPriestly Jul 2012 #33

So Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #35

We deny lots of people the right to operate a motor vehicle Tumbulu Jul 2012 #52

Operation of a motor vehicle isn't a right NickB79 Jul 2012 #70

No one has the right to shoot people Tumbulu Jul 2012 #79

Actually they do, in self-defense or military. But that's not relevent to the discussion at hand NickB79 Jul 2012 #83

In LA the cost of a permit to exercise your First Amendment rights in a public march JDPriestly Jul 2012 #77

a very good idea (nt) Tumbulu Jul 2012 #87

There is direct linkage between the two, the other not so much ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #90

The cost of a life if your firearm is stolen and used in a serious crime. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #92

Did you have it secured in a California approved gun safe? ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #93

That sounds like a good possibility loyalsister Jul 2012 #71

Relative to what? A lawn mover? jberryhill Jul 2012 #13

Why aren't the associated societal costs Tumbulu Jul 2012 #16

Because then we'd have to pay those Chinese people real money jberryhill Jul 2012 #20

What do you do for a living Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #34

Cheap? An AR-15 costs at least $800, and nice ones are 2 to 3 times that. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #48

Gubs are definitely cheaper than guns jberryhill Jul 2012 #11

I doubt Glocks can be had for $200 anyplace obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #40

No they are not cheap, but how much support was he getting from his parents? SoutherDem Jul 2012 #10

I dunno, some thoughts: Chan790 Jul 2012 #19

thanks for the info Tumbulu Jul 2012 #22

The previous poster's right. Igel Jul 2012 #24

A few notes alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #42

Also, he can't have expected to go back to everyday life after this Posteritatis Jul 2012 #55

Cigarettes Are Being Taxed To The Hilt.... global1 Jul 2012 #23

+ 1,000,000 ! Surya Gayatri Jul 2012 #29

There is a Federal Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #46

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2012 #49

Federal excise tax on firearms is 11% slackmaster Jul 2012 #51

What Are The Taxes Associated With Cigarettes?.....nt global1 Jul 2012 #57

I heard that he had spent at least $15,000 on his arsenal Raine Jul 2012 #25

you can also refer to him as a phi beta grad cali Jul 2012 #30

He didn't work at McDonald;s obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #41

Not close to being true ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #44

Apparently early reports were vastly enlarged. I should've known the media Raine Jul 2012 #88

In one of his routines Chris Rock says tblue37 Jul 2012 #27

"University: CO shooting suspect had federal grant" PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #31

He had a $26,000 a year grant cali Jul 2012 #32

Thanks for the info. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #86

Today's paper said the total arsenal cost about $3K. I don't think that included the riot gear. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #36

4 firearms does not a arsenal make ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #91

I've seen some conspiracy theories starting about this already - TBF Jul 2012 #39

I have too, they are seeping on to Facebook davidpdx Jul 2012 #47

Thanks everyone, I learned a lot Tumbulu Jul 2012 #53

Depends on the grad student - TBF Jul 2012 #64

What I want to know is - did he buy all this ammo with a credit card? Initech Jul 2012 #56

Apparently the ammo was purchased on-line, TBF Jul 2012 #60

But how did that not set off a red flag somewhere? That's what I want to know. Initech Jul 2012 #61

My household acct is Chase - TBF Jul 2012 #62

Because it's not illegal to buy 6,000 rd of ammo or 1-2 guns/month like he did NickB79 Jul 2012 #72

But in this day and age where everything is tracked, monitored, categorized, databased, etc... Initech Jul 2012 #73

But its done by Google and the like not the government ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #75

You are being too paranoid, yeah Posteritatis Jul 2012 #81

Ammo is Cheap Macoy51 Jul 2012 #89

Credit card. justanidea Jul 2012 #58

I'm a graduate student... Alduin Jul 2012 #63

Please see my post #64 - TBF Jul 2012 #65

It's unfortunate that grad students in the Social Sciences don't get the funding that science Alduin Jul 2012 #66

I know, it's really not fair TBF Jul 2012 #69

Market forces have an impact, even in academia ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #76

When I was a grad student in Entomology there were no funds Tumbulu Jul 2012 #80

Credit cards I'm guessng 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #67

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #68

maybe student loans? Marrah_G Jul 2012 #82

A S&W AR-15 probably would run about $1,300 krispos42 Jul 2012 #84