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Gregorian

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6. It's the ammunition.

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:57 PM

Jul 2012

That's what I've been thinking as well.

And just what is the Second Amendment for? Protecting the people against the government, or to help defend our government? I think it's pretty obvious. And it means the Amendment is way outdated.

Guns suck. Let's grow up. Land of the brave? Hardly. Bravery means standing in the face of power without the means of destruction of one's enemy. That's how I see it.

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Fear drives opposition to gun control [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2012 OP

Actually fear led to a lot of the gun control laws 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #1

Twelve innocent dead in Colorado Fumesucker Jul 2012 #3

12 is the magic number huh? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #5

Already happened.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #7

So the proper response to giving up lots of our rights out of fear 11 years ago 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #8

All I care about now is the right not to have my grandkids mown down in cold blood.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #13

All I care about is not having my grandkids blown up by terrorists 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #18

Everything but the fucking guns will be gone anyway.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #19

You need to get out more 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #20

I was relating my own experiences.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #23

I think you misinterpret opposition 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #25

Interesting you should bring up football.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #28

So people are talking about banning football now? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #47

A truly good mental health care system will cost more than any politician is going to spend.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #52

Oh well it'd be expensive and difficult, nevermind then 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #53

Neither one is going to happen.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #57

Um . . . k 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #66

"gloating by some in the pro gun crowd"? Gloating? You actually saw gloating? Where? Links? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #44

"Give Up".. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #50

No one can look at that web page and find any "gloating" whatsoever. None. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #54

"Give up" is what you tell the loser.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #55

Nope. Some such as yourself may envision yourself and others as losers. Others may simply want AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #59

I heard that shit in 2000 from Republicans.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #60

You really need to widen your circle. And stop listening so much to Republicans. And stop AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #63

And you need to stop giving commands to people about whom you know nothing. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #65

Somebody other than you then. For you, I know that you claimed that DU gun owners are "gloating". AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #68

Give up... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #69

"It's this sort of juvenile rant that makes the gun-control side such a joke." AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #70

Give up.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #71

Excuse me if I don't accept the Jim Jones koolaid. Tejas Jul 2012 #74

It's this sort of juvenile rant that makes the gun-control side such a joke. rl6214 Jul 2012 #21

I love you too... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #24

Nope, and how many of them are in there on petty drug charges? rl6214 Jul 2012 #33

Beyond my pay grade.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #35

"courts are revolving doors in the USA" - and? Tejas Jul 2012 #75

Name a nation on this planet that has a bigger percentage of its citizens incarcerated than the USA. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #78

You'd love Chicago. Guns are completely banned. Only 45 shot over Memorial Day shadowrider Jul 2012 #27

Evidently the UK is a remarkably target rich environment.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #29

You've lamented before how many we put in prison 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #31

I'm having trouble imagining how such a situation could come about in a rational society.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #38

Huh? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #46

Is it rational to deal rationally with an irrational society? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #56

I would say we're semi-rational 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #67

It all depends on who's taking the rights away... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #9

he says it's tv news and not the NRA that's driving this. Kaleva Jul 2012 #2

it's not fear, it's common sense. bowens43 Jul 2012 #4

It's the ammunition. Gregorian Jul 2012 #6

And I see it differently. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #12

I believe nonviolence is the only way toward a world where people can live side by side in peace. Gregorian Jul 2012 #17

That is a beautiful philosophy. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #42

That really does give me something to think about. Gregorian Jul 2012 #73

Hey, I'm glad we can share ideas. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #77

"get rid of the guns and ... ammunition, and gun violence goes away"? Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #10

Thank you. There are a few of us that favor actual solutions over impossible and ineffective Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #37

Gee, that's a TON of help to the dead. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #62

Nothing can help the dead except possibly to reduce the numbers that will follow them. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #64

Really? atreides1 Jul 2012 #14

I believe that's called 'projection'. Edweird Jul 2012 #11

Of course it does. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #15

Spot on bongbong Jul 2012 #61

We are a nation of terrified little children. sadbear Jul 2012 #16

fear and loathing seem to drive a lot of the gun control conversation on both sides arely staircase Jul 2012 #22

Any post saying it wants to discuss gun control that starts out: shadowrider Jul 2012 #30

i dont have a team arely staircase Jul 2012 #51

one of my gun-crazy friends is afraid to go to the grocery without his gun Lex Jul 2012 #26

He has a point shadowrider Jul 2012 #32

No, he's scared. He is a fearful person. It's sad Lex Jul 2012 #34

Nope, irrationally fearful of the unlikely, as are you, apparently. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #39

Unlikely only needs to happen once. As you can't guarantee my personal safety shadowrider Jul 2012 #40

I can only give you the exact same guarantee that all of us have. We are going to die. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #58

Exactly. I still go hiking even though a tree could potentially fall Lex Jul 2012 #41

Romney’s Church and gun control vanlandingham Jul 2012 #36

Name of site? Link to site? Control-Z Jul 2012 #45

Name of site vanlandingham Jul 2012 #72

Actually, the opposite is true. mmonk Jul 2012 #43

fear is what drives people to gun ownership. Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #48

And mass murder WITH GUNS drives the fear. longship Jul 2012 #49

The NRA has been a successful corporate lobbying group -- some of their shills are in this thread villager Jul 2012 #76