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babylonsister

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Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:35 PM Jan 2018

Pierce: It's Probably Bad That the FBI Had a Mole in Your Campaign [View all]

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a14941443/fbi-mole-trump-campaign/

It's Probably Bad That the FBI Had a Mole in Your Campaign
The ballad of Trump 2016.
By Charles P. Pierce
Jan 9, 2018


By now, we all ought to have made ourselves comfortable down here in the rabbit hole into which the country dived in November of 2016. Laid down rugs. Hung a few pictures. Hooked up the WiFi and the cable. Because, otherwise, finding out that someone walked out of the Trump campaign and into the waiting arms of the FBI might be a story that rocked a few worlds. From Mother Jones:

The ex-British spy who authored a dossier of allegations against then-presidential candidate Donald Trump was told the FBI had someone inside the Trump campaign providing agents with information, according to a newly-released transcript of a congressional interview…“My understanding was that they believed Chris at this point — that they believed Chris might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the Trump organization,” Simpson said. Using the parlance of spies and law enforcement officials, Simpson said the FBI had a “walk-in’’ whistleblower from someone in Trump’s organization.


There seems to be some confusion over whether or not Simpson was talking about a heretofore unknown figure in the investigation, or about the Australian diplomat to whom George Papadopolous drunkenly ran his mouth in the British wine bar. But this I can guarantee you—this revelation is going to be twisted into some amazing shapes by people like Charles Grassley and the replicant that has replaced Lindsey Graham, to say nothing of the entire right-wing media network.

By the end of the week, we’ll be hearing about Barack Obama’s being on stakeout outside of Trump Tower in a nondescript white van, headphones securely on his head. Down in the rabbit hole, we won’t be surprised at all.
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But the FBI felt compelled to say that Hillary was under investigation right before the election. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #1
They probably didn't have an asset to protect in the Clinton camp... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #5
I understand why they did not tip their hand on Trump, but why make a public statement Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #6
Sorry if I sounded like I was defending how they handled the Clinton situation... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #8
Oh I know you weren't. I am just asking rhetorical questions. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #12
Giuliani and Clinton-hating FBI goons in NYC were pressuring & threatening Comey. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #15
I know, but to me, the story seemed to have some missing pieces. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #16
The NYC cadre had possession of Weiner's laptop, as I understand it. Their threat tblue37 Jan 2018 #26
Why was he so afraid of the GOP congress if that was a major pressure point for him? Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #30
He truly believed Clinton would win. Maybe, since he is a Republican, no doubt fairly conservative, tblue37 Jan 2018 #32
Interesting. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #33
He had told congress he would keep them apprised of anything that came up. shraby Jan 2018 #39
Just surprising that a Washington insider would be so threatened by congress. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #41
Yeah, it's all on Comey. He got suckered when he should've fired their asses. brush Jan 2018 #31
Not the only rotten branch of the FBI. Mopar151 Jan 2018 #40
Because they are repug, partisan hacks in the tank for the repug to win, even though... brush Jan 2018 #17
I know, but why did Comey fold like a lawn chair? Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #18
My question too, and from my understanding making statements that can effect an election... brush Jan 2018 #19
Yes Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #23
"If subordinates start threatening their boss, they need to be fired." True, but it is not that easy tblue37 Jan 2018 #48
Yes but certainly they can be moved, demoted or totally ignored. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #53
Yes, that is what Wray did recently to a top FBI lawyer, Jim Baker. He moved him to tblue37 Jan 2018 #55
Right down here with the March Hare, Dormouse and the Mad Hatter, the rogue NY FBI chapter MadLinguist Jan 2018 #24
Good analogies, but you've got to give us the reason why on the raven. brush Jan 2018 #29
well, I was riffing on Lewis Carroll given Pierce's refernce to a rabbit hole, BUT! MadLinguist Jan 2018 #35
I think you may have filled in the missing "why" Comey didn't rein in the NY field office... brush Jan 2018 #36
deleting, Ii meant to reply to Brush, post 36 MadLinguist Jan 2018 #37
I'm trying to understand it for the same reasons. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #43
Again, though, he really assumed Clinton would win anyway, and probably he thought tblue37 Jan 2018 #49
I don't think he was that naive to believe that letter wouldn't be leaked and swing the election brush Jan 2018 #51
I agree with you that Comey let the FBI and the country down with his October surprise letter MadLinguist Jan 2018 #54
Yes but why protect your reputation by doing something more damaging? Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #44
Yes, closer. I think MadLinquist's posts filled in some gaps, as did Feinstein's release yesterday. brush Jan 2018 #46
Yes, exactly. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #47
+1, very unethical and now every office holder who can bring charges to a candidate will take Comeys uponit7771 Jan 2018 #62
Yes, we now know the FBI can be bribed/threatened into taking action against a candidate's opponents Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #66
Damn, jus messed up !!! uponit7771 Jan 2018 #68
Unfortunately, we may never fully know why. paleotn Jan 2018 #20
Right, the "New York meanies made me do it" falls a bit short of the whole picture. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #25
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2018 #10
They were probably videotaping Trump from a microwave. Poiuyt Jan 2018 #2
On that model isn't the video camera behind the "Popcorn" button? WheelWalker Jan 2018 #3
Randy Rainbow w/ "Microwaves" smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #14
His ice cream was bugged LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2018 #52
better a mole than a wart DBoon Jan 2018 #4
I see an artery in Trump's forehead throbbing so hard it's looking to burst BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #7
Frankly, I'd hate for him to have an embolism before we can take him down... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #9
No, whats bad is the FBI may have told Fusion they had a source in the trump campaign. 4139 Jan 2018 #11
Correction, the "walk-in whistleblower" was the Australian diplomat. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author triron Jan 2018 #34
But Papadopoulos was NOT a voluntary witness- he lied to the FBI so this cant be about him being bettyellen Jan 2018 #57
Papa is the person who drunkenly spilled the goods to the Australian diplomat in London. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #61
I think that speculation is incorrect- they said they had a volunteer who had been w Trump campaign bettyellen Jan 2018 #63
Check out this thread: L. Coyote Jan 2018 #64
Thanks! Well, thats interesting. This is going to be some story when all is told! bettyellen Jan 2018 #65
The FBI has "moles" everywhere. That is their job McCamy Taylor Jan 2018 #21
I wonder if they are embedded in every presidential campaign? Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #27
Fair Assumption Kristofer Bry Jan 2018 #22
I'm guessing Priebus elfin Jan 2018 #28
Is this Pierce idiot even a reporter? They didn't say "in the campaign" snooper2 Jan 2018 #38
Didn't specify? Gee, are you sure that's what it said? kcr Jan 2018 #67
would be a surprise if there were only one whistleblower. nt wiggs Jan 2018 #42
Yup - that's the big story from the Fusion GPS transcript. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #45
The mole was Papadopoulos, and the walk-in informant was the Australian guy he blabbed to. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #50
But Papadopoulos wasnt a volunteer informant -he was flipped. bettyellen Jan 2018 #56
I think the testimony is fuzzy around the edges. If Papadopoulos was flipped early and then tblue37 Jan 2018 #58
Isnt there a timeline for Papadopoulos? Im hoping there are others- like the lawyer bettyellen Jan 2018 #59
If Corallo did not go to the FBI when he quit over the obstruction of justice taint, tblue37 Jan 2018 #60
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