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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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179. I have a bigger concern.

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 06:30 PM

Jul 2012

I am against the death penalty. However, my concern is that if he is found not competent to assist in his own defense he may NEVER go to trial at all.

My personal opinion, if you are charged with a violent crime that would get you more than a year in prison, and you aren't competent to stand trial or whatever, they keep should you locked up until you are competent.

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Let's assume Holmes is found guilty of all charges. Death penalty or life? [View all] Johnny Rico Jul 2012 OP

painful death penalty samsingh Jul 2012 #1

Life. ananda Jul 2012 #2

I agree with you. Besides that it isn't going to bring the dead back. However, he'll southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #131

Love you ananda a kennedy Jul 2012 #144

+1 Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #182

Prison is Hell. Far worse than death, and cheaper to the taxpayer. nt onehandle Jul 2012 #3

Hard to believe considering the high number of repeat offenders Freddie Stubbs Jul 2012 #94

Life.....why should the state commit the same crime, murder? AnOhioan Jul 2012 #4

A lawful execution is not murder by definition. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #5

Matter of opinion AnOhioan Jul 2012 #20

ooh right. because if the state says it's not murder and that it's a lawful cali Jul 2012 #21

I agree that it is a state sponsered killing. That is accurate language. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #24

KInda like what finally happened to you. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #198

so...putting him in prison is state sponsored hostage taking... Green_Lantern Jul 2012 #206

Then again, it's the state that's writing that definition. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #116

ok, i know all about godwin's law, but,.... unblock Jul 2012 #129

When you kill another person it is murder no matter the reasons...even war... movonne Jul 2012 #162

That is if you are playing the game pipoman Jul 2012 #190

Murder is defined as MicaelS Jul 2012 #41

Love you AnOhioan a kennedy Jul 2012 #145

I have to go with HappyMe Jul 2012 #6

Same as any other criminal. Xithras Jul 2012 #7

+1 noamnety Jul 2012 #103

I am against the dp in all circumstances. no exceptions. cali Jul 2012 #8

+1 Inspired Jul 2012 #56

+2 ellisonz Jul 2012 #60

+3 LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #154

Love you cali a kennedy Jul 2012 #147

+1 n/t markpkessinger Jul 2012 #173

Life WolverineDG Jul 2012 #9

Love you WolverineDG a kennedy Jul 2012 #149

Life bigwillq Jul 2012 #10

ugh. your post is understandable, but really? is that really what you wish? cali Jul 2012 #12

Yes. See my sig line. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #16

what a remarkably inane quote. cali Jul 2012 #22

It's very appealing to the pubescent male mind. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #146

I hope he rots bigwillq Jul 2012 #186

sure he will...most mass shooters are not insane Green_Lantern Jul 2012 #207

life elana i am Jul 2012 #11

Love you elana i am a kennedy Jul 2012 #150

Life booley Jul 2012 #13

Love you booley a kennedy Jul 2012 #151

thanks booley Jul 2012 #199

Your stance on capital punishment..... a kennedy Jul 2012 #200

since I oppose the death penalty I'd have to vote Life. WI_DEM Jul 2012 #14

Love you WI_DEM...... a kennedy Jul 2012 #140

life in prison is far worse than death, imo. Being caged up like a rat is living death nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #15

A fate worse than death Cayenne Jul 2012 #141

Love you steve2470 a kennedy Jul 2012 #153

aw thanks ! :) nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #188

Firing squad... Upton Jul 2012 #17

Oddly enough... Marinedem Jul 2012 #18

A good percentage of people sentenced for murder have been found innocent. immoderate Jul 2012 #25

perhaps I can help make sense of it for you. cali Jul 2012 #29

but what about when you have someone like this Maine-ah Jul 2012 #104

the problem is the innocent cali Jul 2012 #158

anti-dp arguments are schizophrenic to me Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #209

No, it means we're doing it right. The costs come from mandatory appeals NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #44

The state should not kill people. immoderate Jul 2012 #19

I don't believe in the death penalty for anyone NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #23

+1 jp11 Jul 2012 #27

Love you NNNOLHI a kennedy Jul 2012 #155

life nt Fresh_Start Jul 2012 #26

Thank you Fresh_Start a kennedy Jul 2012 #161

Life without the possibility of parole HockeyMom Jul 2012 #28

Love you HockeyMom a kennedy Jul 2012 #157

Ask the survivors. Tejas Jul 2012 #30

Given the numbers, that will almost certainly be a split decision. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #33

Let him rot in a small cell for the rest of his life. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #31

Thank you Nye Bevan a kennedy Jul 2012 #160

My intellect says life in prison. My emotional side says boil him in oil. n/t backscatter712 Jul 2012 #32

Life Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #34

Here here Reasonable_Argument a kennedy Jul 2012 #156

the death penalty is a reactionary step away from civilization and the kinder and gentler world - Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #35

+ quite a bit cali Jul 2012 #101

Thank you Douglas Carpenter a kennedy Jul 2012 #167

Well said. TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #185

the reason we have prisons is we aren't totally civilized... Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #210

life, I do not believe in the death penalty sasha031 Jul 2012 #36

Love yo sasha031 a kennedy Jul 2012 #163

a kennedy thank you so much sasha031 Jul 2012 #192

Carol Chambers is the DA. She LOVES the death penalty. kaiden Jul 2012 #37

Firing squad in a gas chamber while strapped to the electric chair. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2012 #38

Nah, too quick. Get medieval on his ass! backscatter712 Jul 2012 #42

If you're gonna give him the electric chair, make sure you "forget" to wet the sponge... backscatter712 Jul 2012 #51

I'm not against the DP, but B2G Jul 2012 #39

Thank you for this 'BUT' B2G a kennedy Jul 2012 #164

A life sentence is a fate worse than death IMHO. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #40

i dont think there's any doubt to his guilt-so in this case no innocent person will be executed leftyohiolib Jul 2012 #43

My point was about the death penalty in general. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #58

Thank yo RedStateLiberal a kennedy Jul 2012 #165

Anytime! RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #191

Life imprisonment. NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #45

Thank you NYC Liberal a kennedy Jul 2012 #166

Death penalty justanidea Jul 2012 #46

At first I thought Life, but frogmarch Jul 2012 #52

Life w/ no parole. I oppose the DP, plus I want every opportunity to find petronius Jul 2012 #47

Ditto n/t malaise Jul 2012 #53

Love you petronius a kennedy Jul 2012 #170

won't happen Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #211

I'll wait for the psych exam results hamsterjill Jul 2012 #48

Life - every last day of his life. hifiguy Jul 2012 #49

Thank you for this partly.....but I do not believe in ANY EXECUTIONS. a kennedy Jul 2012 #169

I don't think the state should ever take the life of its citizens. RevStPatrick Jul 2012 #50

Life gopiscrap Jul 2012 #54

Thank you gopiscrap a kennedy Jul 2012 #172

CO is a de-facto non-death penalty state. Democrats_win Jul 2012 #55

I knew one of the managers from that Chuck E Cheese Massacre - met him after the fact Panasonic Jul 2012 #108

Life with no chance of parole. I don't support the death penalty. soccer1 Jul 2012 #57

Life. But then again I'm against the DP Taverner Jul 2012 #59

A eye for a eye and soon we are all blind. sellitman Jul 2012 #60

"If" killing is wrong. Key word. It depends on the circumstances and who is being killed. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #65

"If"? sellitman Jul 2012 #196

Death. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #62

I say make him live every fucking day that its possible for the body to stay alive madokie Jul 2012 #63

The death "penalty" warrprayer Jul 2012 #64

life. Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #66

Government "Covert assignations"...what does the recent Secret Service sex scandle have Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #68

should have used my Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #69

Whatever it is, I say it include the right to autopsy his brain Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #67

Life. white_wolf Jul 2012 #70

Life get the red out Jul 2012 #71

Nope. Life. rrneck Jul 2012 #72

I do not support the death penalty at all. n/t FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #73

Life. reflection Jul 2012 #74

forever in prison. doesnt mean life, necessarily. i am opposed to DP. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #75

Life in prison w/out possibility of parole bluestateguy Jul 2012 #76

Give him the choice Democracyinkind Jul 2012 #77

I am anti-death penalty. Alduin Jul 2012 #78

Life KamaAina Jul 2012 #79

I would normally vote Death... MicaelS Jul 2012 #80

That's a tough one permatex Jul 2012 #81

I'm thouroughly for marsis Jul 2012 #82

Well EarlG gave the OP the DU version of the death penalty: Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #83

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This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #89

Don't get too drunk... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #91

Good for Admin/MIRT. ellisonz Jul 2012 #93

I'm going to set out the troll bait again. ellisonz Jul 2012 #92

thank goodness. cali Jul 2012 #102

Now that's a death penalty I can actually support. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #193

Life. Blue_In_AK Jul 2012 #84

this case is difficult JitterbugPerfume Jul 2012 #86

Life. I oppose the death penalty. It is barbaric... Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #87

Time in a forensic psychiatric facility until *well* (if that ever happens), then cbayer Jul 2012 #88

If he spends time in a forensic facility, it will be because he was found incompetent to stand trial amandabeech Jul 2012 #97

That would be my prediction as well. cbayer Jul 2012 #98

I'm glad to see someone here who sees things the same way. amandabeech Jul 2012 #99

I would put money on it. Now the debate will be whether or not he should be cbayer Jul 2012 #100

Interesting point about the medication. amandabeech Jul 2012 #105

But medication can make someone meet the criteria for standing trial. cbayer Jul 2012 #114

If the medication makes him able to stand trial, amandabeech Jul 2012 #123

Able to stand trial vs. not guilty by reason of insanity are very different, you are right. cbayer Jul 2012 #135

Hinckley would be out but he picked the wrong jaysunb Jul 2012 #159

Prison til dead. Kalidurga Jul 2012 #90

Life in prison Robyn66 Jul 2012 #95

Life - far cheaper for us, far more unpleasant for him hatrack Jul 2012 #96

Solitary confinement, no contact with anyone Panasonic Jul 2012 #106

I vote for Death by Shootin Squad or Solitary Confinement for LIFE. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #107

Death Politicalboi Jul 2012 #109

Death penalty n/t RebelOne Jul 2012 #110

Life in solitary confinement. Avalux Jul 2012 #111

I appreciate those who call for death penalty. longship Jul 2012 #112

"Life in prison with no parole...." Carolina Jul 2012 #121

Is the death penalty really a good deterrent? AntiFascist Jul 2012 #113

Keep him alive to think about what he's done Ken Burch Jul 2012 #115

Heinous crime? Check. Certainty of agency? Check. Mitigating circumstances? dunno yet aikoaiko Jul 2012 #117

if found guilty the death penalty is appropriate Riftaxe Jul 2012 #118

Life. mzmolly Jul 2012 #119

Death Carolina Jul 2012 #120

Life. I'm not a fan of capital punishment JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2012 #122

Life w/o parole .... littlewolf Jul 2012 #124

use treatment to veganlush Jul 2012 #125

build him a special cell veganlush Jul 2012 #126

life. let's not add to the culture of death, please. unblock Jul 2012 #127

Life TNLib Jul 2012 #128

Life in prison: the death penalty is not harsh enough. DinahMoeHum Jul 2012 #130

Life. I oppose the death penalty in all cases. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #132

Life w/o parole will kill him cheaper and quicker than the death penalty n/t dogknob Jul 2012 #133

Life, as a deterrent to anyone planning to go out in a blaze of glory. Scuba Jul 2012 #134

OP is PPR as a repeat disruptor. Go back to free republic, you gun loving death loving troll. Electric Monk Jul 2012 #136

Deadski. Now. Zanzoobar Jul 2012 #137

WE, AS A COUNTRY, ARE BETTER THEN "KILL HIM" a kennedy Jul 2012 #138

Personally I think he'll get the death penalty freethought Jul 2012 #139

Flame bait lunatica Jul 2012 #142

Dear Johnny redwitch Jul 2012 #143

Johnny's gone. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Ineeda Jul 2012 #189

As always, life. The death penalty is just one more example of uniquely American insanity. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #148

death by slow torture on the courthouse steps rdking647 Jul 2012 #152

Life Ezlivin Jul 2012 #168

I am unequivocally opposed to the death penalty in all instances n/t markpkessinger Jul 2012 #171

Besides the fact that I unequivocally oppose capital punishment . . . markpkessinger Jul 2012 #174

OK, sorry, can't love all the "lifers" ..... a kennedy Jul 2012 #175

Love to you too, a kennedy petronius Jul 2012 #187

Life. Death penalty is barbaric. indivisibleman Jul 2012 #176

Life. RumNcoke Jul 2012 #177

Life. Living in a 64 sq. ft cell for the next 60 years is a better penalty than death. madinmaryland Jul 2012 #178

I have a bigger concern. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #179

Life with a box in his cell... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #180

life madrchsod Jul 2012 #181

Life wellst0nev0ter Jul 2012 #183

If this isn't a capital case nothing is. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #184

I guess it's Johnny Muerto now. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #194

I oppose the death penalty in all cases. nt MrScorpio Jul 2012 #195

Life in prison, or life in a secure psychiatric lock-up slackmaster Jul 2012 #197

Life in prison get the red out Jul 2012 #201

Life, no parole, work 6 days a week, to earn proceeds that go 100% to victims families, mandatory patrice Jul 2012 #202

Life. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #203

!00 years for each count Consecutive. Then possibly parol after he completes 50%. Vincardog Jul 2012 #204

I don't believe the death penalty would be wrong in this case... Green_Lantern Jul 2012 #205

Multi-life sentences back to back and released into general population. part man all 86 Jul 2012 #208