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scentopine

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Sun Jan 1, 2012, 08:37 PM Jan 2012

question for teachers about bill of rights [View all]

How do you discuss the bill of rights in classroom given that our current president has

- decriminalized torture

- legalized indefinite detention without trial

- legalized corporations spying on civilians and giving the info to NSA/CIA/DoD/police

- legalized using military as adjunct police force to apprehend "terrorists"

- endorsed secret military courts

Do you say something like "It's no biggie because Obama and all future presidents are good guys and would make sure that we only torture and lock up bad guys, just like the good presidents on TV (and to prove Obama is a good guy, include pictures of Obama and George Clooney)?

Do you discuss when it is appropriate to torture someone or put them under state surveillance (with a special unit on keeping photos secret)?

Do you teach that protest is really low-level terrorism? http://open.salon.com/blog/dennis_loo/2009/06/14/dod_training_manual_protests_are_low-level_terrorism

Are there special teaching units supplied by the Democratic Party to help parents adjust to the new foundations of a more fascist America? We've invested quite a bit of time explaining why torture is sadistic, spying on each other is wrong, search and seizure is wrong, etc. As "old democrats" do we apologize to our children and hope they will forgive us for teaching them the wrong values?

Maybe dems need to publish some coloring books like "Ollie the Friendly Torturer" or "The Happy Little Drone" or maybe "Mr. Obama's Secret Prison" or "Peppy Pepper Spray" or the more serious "The Dangers of Organized Protest" focused at tweens.

Hand these out with "Mommy and Daddy's Job Now Helps People in India" coloring books at the DNC convention in Charlotte.

Perhaps Charlotte's large population of Wall Street CEOs would be very happy to donate the money for these wonderful new teaching materials. After all, the new democratic party is all business.












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Not 'alerting' due to an openhearted sense of goodwill for the new year, elleng Jan 2012 #1
How should democrats teach kids that it is OK to torture? -nt scentopine Jan 2012 #2
I thought Obama was against tortue. I saw him on TV opposed to waterboarding. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #4
Yep and he was against spying on Americans until he was for it scentopine Jan 2012 #16
I disagree, this is exactly how to show another perspective or WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2012 #5
I agree. n/t YvonneCa Jan 2012 #7
as a teacher you present the facts and let the chips fall roguevalley Jan 2012 #18
My students get a basic introduction LWolf Jan 2012 #3
I was taught using examples of British holding colonists in prison without trial scentopine Jan 2012 #8
I try to avoid teaching words and dates to memorize. LWolf Jan 2012 #23
Good answer. AND a good example of why... YvonneCa Jan 2012 #10
Who pissed in your champagne? femmocrat Jan 2012 #6
Obama signing NDAA and whimpering something about "reservations" -nt scentopine Jan 2012 #11
We don't teach Social Studies. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #9
Yes. Good point. We have to stay neutral on torture and whether its OK scentopine Jan 2012 #13
There's a curriculum treestar Jan 2012 #12
I teach science. mr715 Jan 2012 #14
I have a problem with "neutral" and cruel/unusual. Neutral is the cancer killing journalism scentopine Jan 2012 #15
I understand your concern. mr715 Jan 2012 #22
The OP has a good point limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #17
Tell them the truth Herlong Jan 2012 #19
We teach what is supposed to be, not what it is Suji to Seoul Jan 2012 #20
Well said Scentopine. I have often thought over the last few years what my high school Government Citizen Worker Jan 2012 #21
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