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In reply to the discussion: Did anyone else realize this country was finished on January 20, 1981? [View all]HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)74. Yep. Wrote a journal entry on that last year . . . .
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/HughBeaumont/142
The Criminal Illuminati Agency wasn't letting ANY highly popular Democratic family become a political dynasty.
Giving JFK (who stood up to Steel bosses and the nuclear-war-happy MIC) two terms would have been counterproductive to the Republican/MIC/Corptocracy's long term plans.
An RFK win would have seriously swayed America to, you know, NOT be the "USA USA USA"-chanting, jingo-drugged, fearful, completely-corporate-dependent, easily swayed, accepting of lower and lower standards, obedient nation that it is today.
Conspiratorial? Think about it.
When did American wages start getting suppressed? 1973.
When did energy start becoming an overwhelming concern? the early 70s.
What happened in the 60s that you would never see happen today? People protested against the Republican/MIC folly wars and it got televised. Protests are no more than a belch, a blip on today's entertainment-based "news".
When did the Republican party team up with corporations to institute this permanent plague of power and wealth transfer from the poor to the rich (reciprocated with risk, cost of living and tax burden transfer to the poor)? The 1970s
When did this grand plan get permanently nailed? REAGAN.
Since 1968, there have only been THREE Democratic presidents. And no offense to Carter, but it's not like any of them can really be considered truly "Democratic" in a liberal sense, especially not the last two. Being fully on board with Republican "Trickle Down" & Deregulation bullshitnomics isn't Democratic, it's caving to the needs of the ruling class. These were always "approved" Democrats . . . never even the slightest bit liberal, always moderate to Eisenhower Republican at best.
It's no accident that we're likely never going to have a progressive President.
The only dynasty in this country is, and will always be, BUSH. Whether we like it or not.
We're not meant to ask "what could have been". We're only plagued with accepting "how it's going to be from now on". The Kennedys were never meant to thrive. They had ideas, brains, plans and vision that would have swayed America to become an organized working ideal that government and corporations feared.
Instead, the U.S. since the late 60s set the trend in arch-conservative corporate-based "governance" with a glacial but ubiquitous power-grab and continues stridently to make life as miserable and as "stay-put" to it's obedient, timid and completely dependent wage slaves as possible.
Of course, it doesn't really help matters much that the timid, obedient wage-slaves are also fearful and hateful as well, learning absolutely nothing at all from the Reagan, and subsequently, the Bush lootings. That was also part of the plan - make them all into "battered spouses" by making them hate and completely distrust anything "European", "Democratic", "Union", "Taxes", "liberal", even making the word "liberal" akin to "dogshit". That's media purchasing, and that was "The Great Communicator" at work.
I just don't think this is ever going to get better until the Conservative bootstraps groupthink goes the way of the dodo.
Giving JFK (who stood up to Steel bosses and the nuclear-war-happy MIC) two terms would have been counterproductive to the Republican/MIC/Corptocracy's long term plans.
An RFK win would have seriously swayed America to, you know, NOT be the "USA USA USA"-chanting, jingo-drugged, fearful, completely-corporate-dependent, easily swayed, accepting of lower and lower standards, obedient nation that it is today.
Conspiratorial? Think about it.
When did American wages start getting suppressed? 1973.
When did energy start becoming an overwhelming concern? the early 70s.
What happened in the 60s that you would never see happen today? People protested against the Republican/MIC folly wars and it got televised. Protests are no more than a belch, a blip on today's entertainment-based "news".
When did the Republican party team up with corporations to institute this permanent plague of power and wealth transfer from the poor to the rich (reciprocated with risk, cost of living and tax burden transfer to the poor)? The 1970s
When did this grand plan get permanently nailed? REAGAN.
Since 1968, there have only been THREE Democratic presidents. And no offense to Carter, but it's not like any of them can really be considered truly "Democratic" in a liberal sense, especially not the last two. Being fully on board with Republican "Trickle Down" & Deregulation bullshitnomics isn't Democratic, it's caving to the needs of the ruling class. These were always "approved" Democrats . . . never even the slightest bit liberal, always moderate to Eisenhower Republican at best.
It's no accident that we're likely never going to have a progressive President.
The only dynasty in this country is, and will always be, BUSH. Whether we like it or not.
We're not meant to ask "what could have been". We're only plagued with accepting "how it's going to be from now on". The Kennedys were never meant to thrive. They had ideas, brains, plans and vision that would have swayed America to become an organized working ideal that government and corporations feared.
Instead, the U.S. since the late 60s set the trend in arch-conservative corporate-based "governance" with a glacial but ubiquitous power-grab and continues stridently to make life as miserable and as "stay-put" to it's obedient, timid and completely dependent wage slaves as possible.
Of course, it doesn't really help matters much that the timid, obedient wage-slaves are also fearful and hateful as well, learning absolutely nothing at all from the Reagan, and subsequently, the Bush lootings. That was also part of the plan - make them all into "battered spouses" by making them hate and completely distrust anything "European", "Democratic", "Union", "Taxes", "liberal", even making the word "liberal" akin to "dogshit". That's media purchasing, and that was "The Great Communicator" at work.
I just don't think this is ever going to get better until the Conservative bootstraps groupthink goes the way of the dodo.
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Did anyone else realize this country was finished on January 20, 1981? [View all]
NNN0LHI
Jul 2012
OP
I remember being at a party and a bunch of liberal activists said Reagan would be a one-term
libinnyandia
Jul 2012
#4
I remember thinking that Carter had been screwed by the MIC to Reagan's benefit.
NYC_SKP
Jul 2012
#8
Yes, but I thought it would take about 20 years longer to reach this point. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2012
#14
Ronnie Raygun.... I foolishly thought he was the worst prez ever, then Bubba sold us downriver with
peacebird
Jul 2012
#17
Yes. I drank heavily that way. Was a grad student...even then knew disaster was upon us.
NRaleighLiberal
Jul 2012
#18
I am kinda slow. I didnt realize it until the SCOTUS gave the presidency to Bushy
rhett o rick
Jul 2012
#28
i had the same reaction, watched the returns with friends & couldn't believe reagan won. still
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#58
Yes. I was in college and could not understand why none of my friend were as concerned as I was. I
pam4water
Jul 2012
#36
The middle class took it's first steps downward when numbnuts Reagan fired the TC's
demosincebirth
Jul 2012
#43
I remember wondering how so many liberals got fooled into electing that man.
graywarrior
Jul 2012
#45
My Dad told me he would disown me if I voted for Reagan. He told me Reagan wrecked our state
kimbutgar
Jul 2012
#49
I was too young but I grew up in Georgia when Carter was my governor. When I hear Democrats
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2012
#50
Began to suspect it on 4 May 1970 and was pretty sure by 8 September 1974
struggle4progress
Jul 2012
#54
Yeah. Mr Nay and I did. We tried to emigrate to Australia. Didn't make it, got stuck here, and
Nay
Jul 2012
#64
And then, with great fanfare, he took the solar panels off the roof of the White House
NBachers
Jul 2012
#70
Me too. I sat down and wrote a letter to President Carter, apologizing for the American people.
Zen Democrat
Jul 2012
#80
I rooted for Reagan for the R nomination beacause I thought he would lose 60%-40%.
trackfan
Jul 2012
#90
It made me physically ill. Strangely enough, it was worse than the Duyba theft for me.
freshwest
Jul 2012
#100
Society seemed to have lost interest in listening to the better angels of its nature since then.
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2012
#110