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70. Didn't bother him to put Franken's seat in play.

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:56 PM

Jan 2018

All Dems are not created equal. Some are smarter and more capable than others. Just getting someone with a D by their name isn't the same as getting someone who is bright, sharp, and talented.

His signing on (piling on) with the "Dems Who Dump Dems" crowd was not smart. It was not fair. It showed lack of leadership and thought. It was a stupid thing to do. He could apologize. Say he was wrong. He could try to get Franken back in the Senate (where he has been more effective opponent of trumps than Sanders).

But he won't. None of those who played that card will fess up. They will not admit an error. There is a lot on DU about not saying the two parties are alike. They aren't, but in this case we have several senators with the same inability to admit that they did the wrong thing that republicans have.

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Sanders Family Disputes Report of Escalating Burlington College Probe [View all] Omaha Steve Jan 2018 OP

A grand jury is an escalation, but it doesn't mean indictments are coming. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #1

Exactly n/t emulatorloo Jan 2018 #3

So Weaver is calling Robin Lloyd a liar? emulatorloo Jan 2018 #2

Changed its original headline, Grand jury empaneled in Burlington College case, to a new one Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #4

Heres a link to updated article for those who missed it emulatorloo Jan 2018 #5

I think Jane Sanders may be in trouble. No matter how you parse it the Feds are looking into it. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #41

I'd Like To Know How She Got Away With Paying Her Daughter 1/2 A Mil Me. Jan 2018 #57

I would also like to hear about that. nt R B Garr Jan 2018 #58

At BC & also on the resort at St Lucia. Quite the gig, huh! Wwcd Jan 2018 #59

There Is Also Thia Me. Jan 2018 #60

Wow! Thanks for that update. I hadn't read about that part ., ME. Wwcd Jan 2018 #61

And While We're Talking Money Me. Jan 2018 #63

That is what gives me pause. I have a family member who gave his Mom a loan on her house when she Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #64

God, What Is Illegal About Giving A Mom A Loan Me. Jan 2018 #66

You aren't allowed to lend to family. He was a banker. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #72

She Does Need To Be As Accountable As Anyone Else Me. Jan 2018 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jan 2018 #16

The first paragraph of the article is misleading in its phrasing ehrnst Jan 2018 #19

somebody having a sad day snooper2 Jan 2018 #6

Thank Omaha Steve GaryCnf Jan 2018 #7

Unfortunately Vermont Seven Days has a misleading first paragraph ehrnst Jan 2018 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author LenaBaby61 Jan 2018 #8

"Sanders Family Disputes Report of Escalating Burlington College Probe." LenaBaby61 Jan 2018 #9

I think he will run for POTUS in 2020 ehrnst Jan 2018 #15

IMHO Me. Jan 2018 #52

He should delay delay and delay and hope Democrats are back in office by 20. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #71

I Don't Know How He Can Delay Me. Jan 2018 #75

"Sanders family spokesman Jeff Weaver cast doubt on it. " NCTraveler Jan 2018 #10

This and other updates GaryCnf Jan 2018 #11

Yes, but weren't documents subpoenaed pursuant to a grand jury investigation? lapucelle Jan 2018 #12

Yes indeed GaryCnf Jan 2018 #13

"The current status of any grand jury investigation into Burlington College is unclear." ehrnst Jan 2018 #17

And, once again, that statement is technically correct GaryCnf Jan 2018 #21

So you're saying that the only reason anyone would even imagine that there was, ehrnst Jan 2018 #22

I appreciate this GaryCnf Jan 2018 #24

+1! KPN Jan 2018 #54

So there is evidence that there is a grand jury investigation of the Burlington College land deal lapucelle Jan 2018 #23

Please re-read the post to which you replied. GaryCnf Jan 2018 #25

I think I'll just re-read the subpoena issued pursuant to the grand jury investigation. lapucelle Jan 2018 #30

Lol GaryCnf Jan 2018 #32

Well... KTM Jan 2018 #27

Absolutely. KPN Jan 2018 #55

Because they deny it it's not true? Remember, trump repeatedly claimed there was no contact... George II Jan 2018 #31

Because "who" denies "what?" GaryCnf Jan 2018 #34

Isn't fraud a crime?? Bernie's whole campaign platform surrounded calling R B Garr Jan 2018 #35

When it happens, fraud is a crime GaryCnf Jan 2018 #36

Yes, FACTS are important. Fantasy allegations just to R B Garr Jan 2018 #37

I can only conclude GaryCnf Jan 2018 #38

No, the hypocrisy exposure has already happened. R B Garr Jan 2018 #39

Well I must apologize for reading GaryCnf Jan 2018 #40

The counter-argument that there was a grand jury convened for the case? ehrnst Jan 2018 #45

For the reasons I have set out (again) GaryCnf Jan 2018 #48

You are suggesting that grand juries are convened just to harass people? R B Garr Jan 2018 #50

If a witness testified before a Grand jury than a Grand Jury is empaneled. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #42

There is no dispute whether GaryCnf Jan 2018 #46

Again, you imply that the only reason anyone would acknowledge ehrnst Jan 2018 #44

Please do not misunderstand me GaryCnf Jan 2018 #47

Can They Interview Witnesses Without Being Empanaled? Me. Jan 2018 #53

Grand juries aren't convened on just fantasy or rumor ehrnst Jan 2018 #43

Grand juries are convened as a matter of course GaryCnf Jan 2018 #49

Exactly. Now we're being told that grand juries are convened just R B Garr Jan 2018 #51

Toensing is actually irrelevant. Jane lied to the bank to get a loan Wwcd Jan 2018 #67

So you've gone straight to GaryCnf Jan 2018 #68

No. Those are the questions being asked. I have no idea what she actually did. Wwcd Jan 2018 #69

"Sanders family spokesman Jeff Weaver" LexVegas Jan 2018 #14

Not sure why they keep him on, other than he's an insider ehrnst Jan 2018 #18

Personal friend. emulatorloo Jan 2018 #28

There is the issue of trust ehrnst Jan 2018 #29

Yes, an insider to the campaign. He probably knows everything. George II Jan 2018 #33

I guess he has to resign then. Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #26

" Isn't that the situation that "forced" Bernie to demand that Al Franken resign." Wwcd Jan 2018 #56

That's a very good point and analogy. Al didn't even get a grand jury. R B Garr Jan 2018 #62

He can't. They have a GOP governor. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #65

Didn't bother him to put Franken's seat in play. Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #70

It wouldn't be in play...the governor would appoint a Republican...do you ever thing what it would Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #73

Stop being silly. Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #76

This sucks for our us, but it is war. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2018 #77