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17. Thanks, I did a quick search and couldn't find much, will keep looking.

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 09:01 PM

Jan 2018

The bottom line appears to be no agreement on exactly why so many died.
But the pneumonia and no antibiotics seems to be a factor.

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We are not ready for the influenza pandemic [View all] lordsummerisle Jan 2018 OP

I had the flu-shot in early November, quartz007 Jan 2018 #1

How much are you paying for a flu shot? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2018 #2

I guess you are right quartz007 Jan 2018 #4

You and your wife have separate insurance and don't share the cost of meds in your household? Hekate Jan 2018 #19

Correct, I have HMO, she has PPO quartz007 Jan 2018 #21

Are you sure it was the flu? lunamagica Jan 2018 #34

I based it on symptoms.. quartz007 Jan 2018 #78

Huh. I thought that post ACA, insurance was required to cover flu shots Orangepeel Jan 2018 #70

I thought so as well quartz007 Jan 2018 #75

Mine was free - with Obamacare jpak Jan 2018 #6

Even at $15 per shot, for a family of five thats $75 ... Anon-C Jan 2018 #30

It usually reduces the severity somewhat. Our Hortensis Jan 2018 #71

I thought they were saying 10% effective. Squinch Jan 2018 #76

My Mother got the flu shot every year and in January 2013 she died from arthritisR_US Jan 2018 #52

My condolences quartz007 Jan 2018 #77

supposedly getting the shot will reduce sympoms if you get the flu Skittles Jan 2018 #3

I agree left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #7

Yes, I can vouch for that quartz007 Jan 2018 #8

I had the flu once and it slammed me so hard Skittles Jan 2018 #10

Me, too - got Hong Kong flu in the 1968 epidemic (H3N2). The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #26

It did for me this year JustAnotherGen Jan 2018 #55

Insurance pays for the flu shot left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #5

Yes I have health insurance quartz007 Jan 2018 #9

Not always Neurotica Jan 2018 #36

With our company insurace the flu shot GP6971 Jan 2018 #79

Flu shot only 10% effective this year for the main strain womanofthehills Jan 2018 #48

I was paid five dollars to take my flu shot. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #64

Kiryas Joel fighting flu outbreak 1370 people down with it Historic NY Jan 2018 #11

Its a nasty little strain that came from Australia...H3N2. roamer65 Jan 2018 #12

The Flu shot gives about 33% protection against H3N2 stevenleser Jan 2018 #24

Current flu shot is only 10% effective against the H3N2 lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #40

20 to 50 million died in the 1918 flu pandemic. Do we know why it was so deadly? Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #13

From what I have read, it went into pneumonia quickly dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #14

Without antibiotics, pneumonia is serious. Yes about 8 years ago we had flu deaths in my area too. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #15

We got a few weeks ago, got better fro a couple of days, then it came back, dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #20

Maybe that is what happened here, the flu came back. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #58

I think that this is the fear with antibiotic resistance. We go back to 1918. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #18

Too many doctors placate patients by handing out antibiotics tymorial Jan 2018 #33

I agree completely. This is one of the reasons a physician friend of mine quit Family Practice Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #60

The hospitals in Mobile are all full misanthrope Jan 2018 #50

Wow, this is awful. People must be really sick to go to the ER. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #61

There are a number of good books on this that a search will turn up n/t lordsummerisle Jan 2018 #16

Thanks, I did a quick search and couldn't find much, will keep looking. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #17

The very best book about the 1918 flu PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #31

Excellent book MFM008 Jan 2018 #47

Thank you very much PointDexter. Fascinating. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #59

Read a fascinating book ColoradoBlue Jan 2018 #23

Thanks for the book rec. Hard to believe how primitive health care was 100 yrs ago. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #62

There's tons of info on the Internet, even Wikipedia. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #27

Thank you for the book rec. VO. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #63

Cytokines storm- look it up Fiendish Thingy Jan 2018 #43

Yes I will, had not heard of this before. Thank you. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #65

This is an excellent review: Tanuki Jan 2018 #49

Thank you, very interesting. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #66

My grandmother d_r Jan 2018 #56

She was near death but pulled through. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #68

Cytokine storm. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #57

Yes that is what everyone is saying here. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #69

Just in: CDC: Flu is now considered epidemic in U.S. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #72

Spread to all US states. The flu spreads so easily. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #73

I got the flu shot, but still ended up with it 2 days after Christmas. It has hit hard here in MA. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #22

Did not get the shot for the first time in years GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #25

I hope you feel better soon without complications. nt Ilsa Jan 2018 #29

TY GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #54

I work with palliative care and hospice kids. I get the shot. It's not fair to them mucifer Jan 2018 #28

I don't get the shot, although perhaps in the future I will choose to do so. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #32

That was H2N2. You might not have any immunity for other strains The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #37

I got the flu several times growing up. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #39

Ah, I had the flu in 1968- my first bout Fiendish Thingy Jan 2018 #44

A 10 year old child died in the town... 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #35

So what if you are allergic to the flu shot? Elwood P Dowd Jan 2018 #38

I don't get them because of allergies too womanofthehills Jan 2018 #51

If enough people you associate with are getting the vaccination, you are afforded afforded still_one Jan 2018 #53

We're not ready for a missile strike. sarcasmo Jan 2018 #41

My 7 year old has it I think. EllieBC Jan 2018 #42

For those hunting for an excellent book: John M. Barry's "The Great Influenza"... Hekate Jan 2018 #45

Yes, others here are recommending this book. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #74

My mom is in local hospital MFM008 Jan 2018 #46

a nearby school district was closed all last week withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #67

I am re-reading "Influeza 1918" by Lynette Iezzoni Lifelong Protester Jan 2018 #80