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In reply to the discussion: Matt Taibbi: From an Unlikely Source, a Serious Challenge to Wall Street [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)66. Our dad's dads paid the car company, the builder (who got a loan, but his money was on the line),
the doctor. Far more direct, and much more local.
Today we pay the banks. If (and they try very hard) they can do nothing about any being left over, someone else may get some.
So we pay our debt, which is paying other debt...etc. At every step paying fees to the banks.
There is so much debt out there, with so little demand that would create the funds to pay it off with, WE could very easily stay in servitude to the banks in perpetuity. (Home loan, car loan, food stamps - banks make money on any of that). Slowly but surely the millions who are underwater or supported by the debt that is still out there will lose what they have, while we put up with little scraps of populist programs. People might get upset, but we have at least 2 or 3 generations who have been taught that someone else is always the best judge of what they should do. Kinda like slaves. And look how long it took to get enough black folk on board to just get them the civil rights act.
Most people I talk to really, really don't understand they they are living a life that has been restructured by the banksters\wealthy for their own profit at the expense of others.
I was watching CNN while ago, the newscaster was going on about the huge increase and problem with student loan debt, but then said something stunning:
"Students are making the same mistakes homeowners did with housing"
WHOA, NELLIE!!!!
It's damn clear that the banks, with help from the people in power in our government, lobbied for laws that were passed to enable them to hide transactions, that they solicited very large sums of money to be offered as mortgages with no underwriting standards, used fraud to market those same assets in a variety of instruments in clearly illegal ways, etc, etc. They destroyed, and are destroying, this economy.
Blaming the borrower is like blaming rats for putting the stinky cheese in the trap that snapped their neck.
The students are just doing what they have been programmed to do since birth, and the banks know that barely half are getting jobs. They don't care, the government guarantees the loan, even if they have to tap your social security. Homeowners not only were encouraged to action, but told that it was safe for the future by the Federal Reserve Chairman in the year the first crash of the housing market hit.
If CNN can come on the air and blithely announce that the financial crisis was the fault of homeowners, (in essence what was said) I have to believe that tens of millions of soccer-moms and dads probably are right on that newscasters wavelength.
Great Scott!
We are in trouble if people don't know they are slaves.
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Matt Taibbi: From an Unlikely Source, a Serious Challenge to Wall Street [View all]
marmar
Jul 2012
OP
Ha Ha HA! Taibbi making shit up again. His "serious challenge" does not have
banned from Kos
Jul 2012
#4
Yes, it does. It's called 'taking action' on behalf of the PEOPLE this time, rather than the
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#9
Interesting, my girl-friend is having a similar problem, getting an attorney to represent her
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#42
Our dad's dads paid the car company, the builder (who got a loan, but his money was on the line),
jtuck004
Jul 2012
#66
I'd like to point out that an under-appreciated genius made a similar suggestion 2 1/2 years ago:
Orrex
Jul 2012
#5
Wow, that was brilliant, Orrex. You were ahead of the game. And it was a very good question at the
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#8
But the post didn't address the point made by TexasObserver. Is TexasObserver right?
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2012
#25
The fair market value of a foreclosed home is often a tiny fraction of its full sale value
Orrex
Jul 2012
#27
But that is not what happens in eminent domain. Properties are not auctioned. There is caselaw on
stevenleser
Jul 2012
#53
You cannot single out someone in a law like that, it would have to apply to all property owners.
stevenleser
Jul 2012
#58
You'd only be applying it to people who vacate properties and don't maintain them.
Orrex
Jul 2012
#59
You are correct, using MERS, the Banks removed any records of ownership from municipal record
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#21
They could take the banks to court and do what many home-owners are doing now, demand to see
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#30