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loyalsister

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42. Do you not see the difference?

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 02:31 AM

Jul 2012

between a sympathetic family who has lost a son, daughter, parent and a person who has just murdered 12 people? The people with schizophrenia who are totally successfully treated as well as those who experience moderate symptoms despite medication are ignored. No one invites them to speak during these program.

People with disabilities are usually not included in the conversation and certainly don't have the kind of money gun owners have. One challenge we have is trying to get people to even listen to us without making assumptions. It's more like gay activists. We have both been legislated against, and the features of our existence has been attributed to moral and mental failings. With few individual exceptions among the opposition, the gun lobby has not been accused of mental disregard and moral failings.

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Discussion of Schizofrenia on the TV machine right now (Sharpton) [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 OP

I agree but soccer1 Jul 2012 #1

Not necesasily nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #4

Yes, maybe. soccer1 Jul 2012 #8

I agree with you. amandabeech Jul 2012 #17

Yes, very difficult situations, at times. soccer1 Jul 2012 #24

Yeah, but that's partly the culture too nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #19

Yes.....people can be afraid of being stigmatized if they have mental health issues, for good reason soccer1 Jul 2012 #25

That is part of it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #41

My husband is bi-polar. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #15

And there can often be a *lot* of pressure to deny or avoid treatment for mental illness Posteritatis Jul 2012 #18

Oh very correct nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #20

He did at U of Colorado HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #26

On our campus, those were unlicensed student counselors who could do nothing for serious conditions Care Acutely Jul 2012 #29

Yes, this all varies from campus to campus, but the minimum service provided HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #33

Yes..... soccer1 Jul 2012 #43

It does no good to refer someone to services they cannot afford. I'm not saying this was the case Care Acutely Jul 2012 #46

Yes, good point. soccer1 Jul 2012 #47

Urgent actually is different from acute nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #31

My point is only to communicate the information available at the university's website. HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #34

That's right.....colleges and universities do provide mental health services soccer1 Jul 2012 #27

So he had access to acute care? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #32

Sliding scale services from psychiatrists are available in Denver. HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #35

Oh the access to funds is easy as pie nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #36

No I am not missing it. I've acknowledged the general problem HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #37

A guy who has $6,000 to spend on guns and ammunition has no shortage of funds slackmaster Jul 2012 #45

Often when you are deep into a mental illness you are incapable of asking for help. Marrah_G Jul 2012 #38

Say it with me loyalsister Jul 2012 #2

You mean they actually speaking of this nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #3

I mean the instant dx by people who have never been in the same room with him loyalsister Jul 2012 #7

That was not my impression nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #13

You're missing the point loyalsister Jul 2012 #23

So how or when should we talk about it? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #30

How about.... loyalsister Jul 2012 #39

And it also needs to be talked about on tv nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #40

Do you not see the difference? loyalsister Jul 2012 #42

He could also have a brain tumor The empressof all Jul 2012 #5

That is why they will do that testing regardless nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #6

I thought you said it was because of Rush Limbaugh? zappaman Jul 2012 #9

It's stochastic schizophrenia...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #12

oooooooooooooooooooooh zappaman Jul 2012 #16

You don't know that and you don't know if he's really schizophrenic, either. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #21

It's been proven zappaman Jul 2012 #22

This is one type that falls through the cracks.. ananda Jul 2012 #10

That is part of it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #14

I had to laugh at TV machine demtenjeep Jul 2012 #11

Students at UC Denver have very easy access to mental health care, at very low cost slackmaster Jul 2012 #28

Yes. HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #44

No matter how accessible mental healthcare is Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #48

72 hour holds are done regularly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #49