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JonLP24

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Tue Jul 24, 2012, 06:05 AM Jul 2012

Assault rifles [View all]

Often times when something happens there is a rush for legislation based on public pressure which the legislation is symbolic, does little-to-nothing to prevent what happened that led to the legislation, and there is unintended affects.

That is how I feel about recent calls for assault rifle bans. Assault rifle in this context, I believe, deals with semi-automatic military style rifles. As far as the function, a semi-auto military rifle is no different than non-military semi-auto. I often read that these weapons were designed for warfare rather than hunting which because of that reason which makes most of these rifles piss poor for hunting big game(rather than what's implied such as them being too powerful). Most of them such as the AR-15(you can get it for different calibers) fires standard a .223, 5.56m bullet which are widely considered too small and inhumane for deer. They would be used for smaller game. For Deer, hunters generally use much larger rounds such as 7.62 for AR-15 or .30-.30 on other models.

For those reasons a specific assault rifle bans doesn't make sense when I'd rather get shot by a M-16 than a Deer/Bear hunting rifle. It also wouldn't prevent other gun massacres because there is nothing special about a AR-15 that would make a gun massacre possible that other rifles wouldn't.

One argument that seems reasonable is the Rambo types, the ones more likely to engage in a massacre would be attracted to these types. That may be true but I would have difficulties legislating against a mindset but it is a fair point.

In general, they are rarely used in crimes. Handguns are used by far more than any other kind of gun in violent gun crimes. I won't argue against those for banning all guns or all rifles since they would actually address the problem of gun massacres but a specific military rifle ban would prevent nothing (except for choice in weaponry) and harmful on legal gun owners.

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Assault rifles [View all] JonLP24 Jul 2012 OP
Derp Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #1
What a waste of time to post this thread justanidea Jul 2012 #2
Which would be interesting JonLP24 Jul 2012 #4
I need a 120 round clip for my 12 gauge shotgun, really I do. n/t 2on2u Jul 2012 #3
Why, for weight training? Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #7
Fail. I know more than most about firearms, and no they don't need to be banned, the 2on2u Jul 2012 #15
Which "system" is that? NT Llewlladdwr Jul 2012 #37
You already know the answer to that question, the one that has a shoddy mental health 2on2u Jul 2012 #39
"and there is unintended affects" geckosfeet Jul 2012 #5
Just a portion of it JonLP24 Jul 2012 #6
One of the "unintended affects" of a heavily armed society geckosfeet Jul 2012 #11
I was under the impression JonLP24 Jul 2012 #13
Most shootings are done with .22 handguns obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #20
.22 are NOT prima facie Saturday night specials ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #41
We Either Have a Machine Gun Ban, or We Don't. Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #8
Ok, now what? Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #9
So justanidea Jul 2012 #10
Bump stocks, tech triggers, and now rubber bands.... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #12
The ATF justanidea Jul 2012 #14
I noticed you avoided my post nt Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #16
The Hughes Ammendment needs repealed anyways. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #18
Eleventysquillion $ for the ATF and they ban SHOELACES. Tejas Jul 2012 #34
Automatics are not available to consumers obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #21
They are now. Again: With bump stocks, tech triggers, and now rubber bands.... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #23
Why do you think anyone will even remember this after the next election? Llewlladdwr Jul 2012 #38
a few points... OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #17
I already know JonLP24 Jul 2012 #24
Then you are using it incorrectly just like the rest. Tejas Jul 2012 #30
I understand that JonLP24 Jul 2012 #32
These are my civil rights, let's both be nice. Tejas Jul 2012 #33
Assault rifle definition ... spin Jul 2012 #19
Got it. See #24 JonLP24 Jul 2012 #25
Most of the problem is in the magazines, not the guns. Who the fuck needs 100 rounds? HopeHoops Jul 2012 #22
The 100 round magazine did stop the massacre. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #26
Interesting speculation that the 100 round mag may have saved lives in this instance. Kaleva Jul 2012 #27
I own a Glock 19 (9mm semiautomatic pistol) MercutioATC Jul 2012 #31
to me, yes. 4 seconds is all I need to close on you. pasto76 Jul 2012 #36
You, and apparently a lot of other people. MercutioATC Jul 2012 #40
yep, cause 16 years of training and war experience means Im soft just liek you pasto76 Jul 2012 #42
You're probably right JonLP24 Jul 2012 #35
assault thread spanone Jul 2012 #28
Holmes did not use an Assault Rifle. Tejas Jul 2012 #29
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